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------------> When you pirate mp3's, you're downloading communism <------------
***if you are interested in adding SITE H8ZINE to your site msg us now!***
(if you run some bbb.se shit or a site with fua, get lost)
note: if you cant read the zine because its way too long, then, in ffxp, hit f6
, general tab, then look for scrollback buffer and put 1000 or so thx!
PATRIOTIC EDITION, KILL THE REENCODERS, KILL THE TERRORISTS, KILL ALL THE
FUCKING USELESS CRAP AROUND THE WORLD, H8ZINE CHAPTER 11, LIKE SEPTEMBER 11
COINCIDENCE? SATAN KNOWS, BUT WE ARE HERE READY TO H8 BASTARDS
**In Memoriam**
September 11, a day nobody will ever forget, 2 important things happened in
this day, 1.- Back in 1973, at 6 am the chilean army decided to stop the
communist bullshit, how? Killing all the mother fucking terrorists who were
trying to destroy the country 2.- Back in 2001, the terrorists fucked up the
twin towers @ USA, how? Crashing 2 airplanes in both towers. In 1973, non
innocent people were killed, in 2001, innocent people were killed. And whats
happening today? gay groups (terrorists) are killing our scene.
**End of In Memoriam**
Hi scene reencoders & narqs, SUP! you know what, im getting tired of writing
shit every week, im tired of people supporting p2p, im tired of the reencoders,
im tired of the gay sites, im tired of the whole scene mess.
In the past, the equation was RIPPERS+NEWCD= SCENE RELEASE and now it seems to
be RIPPERS+KAZAA = SCENE RELEASE, is that what we want? Really, if you people
are just fucking lazy to supply good shit (excepting a few honourable groups)
then why are you here, instead of make me waste my time waiting for the so
called advance aka reencoded rip from p2p, why dont you just give me the url
or ftp dump address to download the rip by myself? Sadly i dont have leech
anywhere so the few credits i have are money for me, and im fucking wasting
them with your useless crap. Do you know whats the difference between scene and
p2p? At the moment, a .nfo/.sfv and a well tagged filename, nothing else
(excepting some groups like i said in the beginning) so, why dont we just open
the scene for everybody and lets kill it in 1 day? The pain i feel right now is
just comparable to the pain felt by those guys who were beheaded in pakiland a
few weeks ago. Right now, there are at least 400 active "groups" in the scene
, 40 (or less?) are ripping quality music, so what we have here is 360 groups
filling up sites with CRAP, 360 groups that should be fucking wiped out of the
scene, 360 groups with potential reencoders, narqs, fakers, etc. Isnt 360 too
much? You might be thinking "omg lord h8r went nuts, there arent 400 groups in
the scene, Are you sure?" Yes MAN, im fucking sure of what im talking right now
,its crazy $@!$ Who's responsible of this big mess? Who was enough fucking homo
to allow this? We'll never know, but i can tell you something, my beloved h8r,
its your fault, and my fault, and everybody's fault, for being stupid and
believe in so many shit in the past years, giving a chance to every single grp
that wanted to be famous releasing a poor quality reencode of a big album just
to be famous, giving a chance to those ones that we thought they were good ppl,
giving a chance to those ones who promised us the best releases every week, we
fucked up man, badly, and now we are suffering the consequences.
But hey! the question now is: Can we get again our ELEET status? Can we make a
difference? IT'S HARD! but there's a chance, how? Not giving a fucking chance
to any new group, banning those groups who are fucking up every day, every week
, every month! Who cares if they do 5 legit rips and then 10 nukes, just BAN'EM
and problem solved, you dont need'em, i dont need'em, scene dont need'em, so
what? nobody will give a shit if a new group gets banned with no reason, YOU
dont need to give a reason, this shit is not a democracy, this is HELL, let's
follow vladimir putin's style and lets just ban groups and after that, we'll
PROBABLY give a reason, many groups didnt give you a reason of why they fake,
reencode and dupe so much every day, so why we should give'em a reason if we
ban'em? Are we fucking stupid? no, im not stupid, and i hope you are not stupid
We can fix this mess, it would just take 1 or 2 days to massive ban as much
groups as we can and done! There are a lot of coders in the scene who can make
such a great anti gay groups stuff, let's use'em and lets clean this fucking
trash can called scene. Thanks!
In another point, lets talk about _INT releases. Whats the purpouse of a INT
release? Only one, re release a GREAT cd that was released long time ago and
many people would like to get a fresh rip because they couldnt get the first
one. If thats the case, then its welcome, but why wasting site's space preing
reencoded webshit? That's like saying "hey we have the original cd single but
since we cant prove its original we are releasing it as INT so we dont get
nuked" BULLSHIT!, groups releasing cd singles as INT are just spreading their
homo reencodes from www in a "valid" way and avoiding to get nuked, im not
going to mention groups doing this, but here's a hint: R.W single released by
some extra huge group. Siteops watch your affils, thanks.
And to those who think we are just haters with no reason, fuck you all, and
check this out (this one goes for AES, another new eleet "mp3" group):
Sou|child is XDF-23995@host81-152-239-231.range81-152.btcentralplus.com * w
Sou|child using irc.inet.tele.dk Men in black T-shirts, who don't shave
Sou|child End of /WHOIS list.
Channels: #XDCC-FILES #ViBEZ #Thug_Mp3z #RnbViBeZ #RnB-GaNgStAz #rnb
#Riddim_Ryder #RAPMP3Z #music-shack #mp3
<Sou|child> hi im really sorry for messing u guys about my old members from chr
convinced me to stay which is now aes <-do you see that AES? A-E-S , when we
say your group aint worth shit, we are right, now leave us in peace and keep
adding those cool rippers to * sites so all the mother fucking XDCC channels
get the scene stuff in 0sec.
This chapter goes dedicated to: all of those honest rippers who work hard and
put effort in the stuff they rip, you guys rule, you dont need to cheat because
you know you are the greatest shit ever, and you belong to some honourable
group, im proud of you, you give me the h8 i need everyday to fight this war
against the bullshit groups. No matter how much i have to wait till you decide
to rip the shit i want, ill be here, to waste my creds in the high quality
music you do every week, im your fan #1.
And also goes dedicated to those who died because of terrorist acts in this day
, we'll not forget'em.
H8? LORDHATER@HUSHMAIL.COM NOW
Lord H8r
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<nsrafk> do u have a whois of this nsr`?
<blackman> he was using chat.efnet.org
<nsrafk> as host?
<blackman> no as nick
<blackman> :<
<mickske> im nukenet
<mickske> :/
<mickske> NEUKNET*
<mickske> =[
<Gamma> na
<Gamma> u would be
<Gamma> DUMBNET
<Gamma> or IDIOTNET
<Gamma> or NOSEXNET
<mickske> true
<mickske> and u are
<mickske> AUTONET?
<mickske> :P
<Jm4n> gonna watch movie .. will leave auto on you beep me if i screw up
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PLAY YER TUNES! doesnt ring a bell to anyone because they are widely known as
pyt, a group oriented to release mostly rock/indie stuff, and they do good!
They bornt in a cold morning back in May 2002, and have survived into the
jungle since then, a group of friends who release good music, dont fuck with
anybody and dont bitch at all, because they are not here to fight or release
crap, they are here to enjoy scene, they are not kids, they put effort in what
they do and they are cool, they have some little undercover h8rs inside who are
helping nukers to find shit, they rule, they are pyt, H8ZiNE is proud to
present a interesting interview with them, enjoy it! pyt <3 <3
<Lord_h8r>
1.- Hi pyt, i dont want to play MY tunes, because im not a musician, but ok,
HI! I was waiting for this interview for so long, did you know after i met you
my collection of sex pistols bootlegs is almost complete? Thanks for that!
Now tell me, What do you think about scene's status right now, where are we
going? Are we dying? Share your oppinions with us
<pyt>
A: Long live rock! and the scene too. Of course the scene will go on, faces may
change, sites go up and down quicker than a $5 ho at Mardi Gras.
Well, the current scene isn't much different than the scene from years back.
Even after a few serious busts, it appears that most folks are trying to do
better in terms of security.
<Lord_h8r>
2.- LONG LIVE TO SATAN! you just mentioned the banned word in h8zine "security"
What do you know about security? Do you think you are safe? Can you fight
against USA's army and the b-52's f-117 and the N.S.A ? i want to know if YOUR
security is better than their intelligence
<pyt>
A: Unfortunatly, its probably not. If I've learned anything over the past few
years, its two things: 1) Protect yourself 2) Trust NO ONE. While security is
very important, its wise to try to make yourself as secure as possible (i.e.
bnc's, SSL, disk crypt, channel crypt...).
But, the biggest risk to security is not the scene itself, its those that want
to do it harm (sorta the disgruntled employeee type scenario)
<Lord_h8r>
3.- Exactly MR SPYT, the only good thing you can do right now is TRUST NO ONE,
anyway, fuck it, we'll be busted one day and we'll go to the same jail and you
will have to trust in me because im a huge guy and i can protect you and you
could be my PERRITA, so, what about SPYT and it's future, are you planning to
keep releasing good rock stuff or you will quit one day to give more time to
real life's most important group (FAMILY) or you'll be here till you die?
<pyt>
A: Being in pyt is just like family... we have a great bunch of folks in it,
with varied tastes and ideas. We range in age from late teens to 50's, so we
have Mom's and Dads, and kids, and everything inbetween.
So, I don't see pyt ending anytime soon, we'll just pass the torch to the new
bunch of rockers!
<Lord_h8r>
4.- What a dedicated scener, SCENE > FAMILY, i got it right!, tell me something
, After 2 years ripping and releasing, What do you hate in the scene, what is
pissing you off right now, i want to know, the people wants to know, so im
going to be more clear: WICH GROUPS ARE FUCKING PISS YOU OFF WITH THEIR FAKES
DUPES REENCODES N SHIT
<pyt>
A: Of course re-encodes and fakes are bad, as for dupes, well, we all make a
few of those now and then. I guess the biggest concern is the ease and
regularity that we see in new groups popping up (thats where most of those
nukes orignate from).
Thinking back, during our start we had a few dupes, till we got access to the
right dupechecks. But, these days, it seems some siteops don't care enough to
cleanup the bad new groups, and nurture the good ones. As for H8n' other groups
, we'll I don't particularly H8 any group.
<Lord_h8r>
5.- you dont H8 any group? WTF CALL 1-800-HATEMENOW and get free H8, that might
change your friendly attitude, but i respect it! you are cool, im a hater.
About rules, lets say you are MP3 SCENE LEADER for one day with the power to
BAN groups, CHANGE rules and whatever the hell you can imagine, what would you
do?
<pyt>
A: Good question! First off, I'd include siteowners in the council. Make then
take ownership of how/who stays and goes. Also, one rule I'd like to see better
enforced is release naming. I'd like to see a clearly stated set of rules to
describe all the country codes and force people to use them.
As for banning groups, there should be some nuke ratio type rule that states
that if you exceed a certain ratio, you are warned, if it doesn't improve, you
get banned.
<Lord_h8r>
6.- What if a siteowner is a EEEFBEEEYEE SECRET AGENT? bad move pyt but about
release naming, you are damn right, im pretty tired to see groups like piece of
shit -JUST tagging their crap with -AR- for example, the -AR- language doesnt
exist, its SPANISH FOR FUCK SAKE! And about bans, why warn groups when you just
can ban'em? Yeh dont explain me, it just me being a hater 24/7, its my style,
it's putin's style, and i love it!. Now, what about the 400 active mp3 groups
in the scene, do you think thats acceptable? DONT YOU THINK SOMETHING WENT
WRONG HERE?
<pyt>
A: If the issue with too many groups is security, then yes, thats an issue...
but with more groups, I'd hope that would create more choices and more
releases. After all, thats why pyt is here, for the music!
There's probably never going to be a way to stop new groups, and I'm not sure
that thats a bad thing, as long as there is some thought given to security.
<Lord_h8r>
7.- Those motherfucking useless groups will be stopped, you have my word on
that, scene will change (i hope) else i'll just quit, i dont want to be part
of a bullshit scene, even kazaa is better than scene these days and i dont need
to trial there to get my shit, fuck you reencoders, fuck you low quality groups
, and love for pyt who's not part of the shitty groups.
So pyt, do you have friends here? Wanna tell'em how much you love'em? If so, do
it now, take my oldschool microphone and start spreading LOVE or HATE to your
friends/enemies!
<pyt>
A: Ah, the good part! One person in particular had an important impact of pyt
coming into existance, he's your favorite h8zine e-mailer (Rafie). He gave me
the kick in the ass to get together a few folks that had the same desire to
share music, and thats how pyt was formed. He helped us a lot during those
early days. From their we've all made good friends with the siteops, other
group members, and yes even traders.
As for other groups that we like, well theres lots... EGO, RNS, ESC, JUST, aAF,
FNT, JCE, DGN... and many many more... keep those great releases comin'!
<Lord_h8r>
8.- That fag, filling my mailbox with gay porn, im fucking sick of him, im not
a fag, im a straight men, i stick my dick in vagina's, not in a ass, so please,
leave me alone and let me hate in peace!. But ok! your HOLLA list is cool
(excepting a few groups), now tell me, DIRTY HARRY (sheepnet) or BRUCE WILLYS
(nukenet), who's your favourite actor and why! EXPLAIN
<pyt>
A: I'd like to see a movie starring both of them!
Dirty Harry is cool, gets to say things like "make my day", but gotta give
props to Bruce Willis since for a while, he got to say "Demi, lets get laid"
As for nuking... well, the more the merrier
<Lord_h8r>
9.- Oh man seems like there's no way to get h8 from you = [, What can we do @
H8ZiNE to improve the zine, what would you like to see here?
<pyt>
A: I always look forward to each issue. I like the format (even the h8). Don't
change a thing! And, props to you for doing it, week after week!
<Lord_h8r>
10.- THANKS! it's hard to keep this shit up, but its fun, many people enjoy
h8zine, some hate us, its the usual, you just cant be friendly with everybody
and the hate is always welcome. To finish this, the usual last question, define
: XDCC MIXTAPE BOOTLEGGER
<pyt>
A: xdcc = SHUT THEM DOWN!
mixtape = guess they are ok for sending to your girlfriend
bootlegger = suck if yer selling, but ROCK if yer sharing
Comments: pyt is cool and thats all i can say to a group wich i saw growing up
and won a place in the scene, you did it pyt, you did it mother
fuckers, make your group better every day.
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TOO LAZY TO ADD SHIT THIS WEEK, MORE IMPORTANT THINGS HAPPENED IN SEPTEMBER 11
****CRAP OF THE WEEK****
NO ROOM FOR THE SHIT GROUPS THIS WEEK, THIS CHAPTER IS DEDICATED FOR THOSE WHO
ARE LEGIT RIPPERS AND THOSE WHO DIED BECAUSE OF THE TERRORISM IN THIS DAY.
***BYE BYE END***
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