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Netizens-Digest        Monday, October 7 2002        Volume 01 : Number 404 

Netizens Association Discussion List Digest

In this issue:

Re: [netz] ecommons/agora public space online: and netizens
Re[2]: [netz] Something to consider
[netz] ACn Vol 11 no 1: In Memory of Michael Hauben: Discoverer of Netizens
[netz] Email from japan
Re: [netz] Email from japan
[netz] A Sequel to Netizens and a Play about Netizens?
[netz] Article about Usenet and Usenet Archives - Comments encouraged
[netz] GOOGLE'S PIRACY
[netz] Hi and a NYC dinner this coming Thursday
[netz] Call for Submission "The Emergence of the Netizen 1992/3 - 2002/3"
[netz] ICANN contract up Sept 30. What is to be done?
[netz] ICANN and the DOC Can't
[netz] Only more democracy can save democracy

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Date: Sun, 05 May 2002 11:21:39 -0400
From: Liss Jeffrey <ljeffrey@mcluhan.utoronto.ca>
Subject: Re: [netz] ecommons/agora public space online: and netizens

Thanks Jay
Well said. We will keep you informed of our progress.

Liss J

At 10:14 PM 5/2/02 -0400, you wrote:
>Hi,
>
>I did not wish to be sectarian when I reposted The Proposed Declaration of
>the Rights of Netizens in the same thread as eCommons/Agora teams'
>proposed Declaration of Cyber Citizen Rights to Public Space Online.
>But I can see how it could have appeared that I was not welcoming the new
>work.
>
>Let me say that I find the wording and intention of the eCommons/Agora
>teams' proposal interesting and thought provoking. It puts the fight to
>keep the Internet as a public commons in the context of the general fight
>for public space, which is an increasing endangered species. I also agree
>that access to the net should be an "essential right of every human
>being." It is our common question how to win and maintain that right in
>the face of the commercialization and privatization that is so championed
>even by the government in the US.
>
>The authors of the proposed Declaration capture the essence of
>netizenship, in my opinion, when they suggest netizens "agree to
>contribute to the maintenance of the growth of public space
>on-line by offering in word and deed ways and means to sustain the
>continued growth of this collective enterprise."
>
>The work to keep the net public and as an accessible and open
>international communications media will take the effort of many good
>people over a long period of time.
>
>So it is helpful to see the work of netizens in Canada and elsewhere.
>
>May our common efforts be strengthened by the inspiration of each other's
>work and may that work converge.
>
>Take care.
>
>Jay

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Date: Sun, 5 May 2002 22:18:42 +0200
From: Dan Duris <dusoft@staznosti.sk>
Subject: Re[2]: [netz] Something to consider

HCB> How do the "people" do anything that requires years of study and practice?
HCB> And when did the phenomenon of the tragedy of the commons get repealed?
HCB> Sir, without coming across with any specific proposals other than
HCB> what seems far-left rhetoric, your credibility does not seem high.
Great argumentation in your last reply, Howard!

dan
- --------------------------
email: dusoft@staznosti.sk
ICQ: 17932727

*- little brother says: "minimal state!" -*

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Date: Thu, 23 May 2002 00:25:37 -0400 (EDT)
From: jrh@ais.org (Jay Hauben)
Subject: [netz] ACn Vol 11 no 1: In Memory of Michael Hauben: Discoverer of Netizens

Dear participants in the netizens mailing list,

The Amateur Computerist Vol 11 No 1 is available. It is a special
issue, "In Memory of Michael Hauben: Discoverer of Netizens".

The table of contents for this issue appears at the bottom of this
message. I will send via email a copy to anyone who asks for one.
The issue is also available via browser.

The ascii version of Vol 11 No 1 can be seen at a web site:

http://www.ais.org/~jrh/acn/text/ACn11-1.txt

There are also WordPerfect and .prn formated versions at:

http://www.ais.org/~jrh/acn/text/ACn11-1.wpd

http://www.ais.org/~jrh/acn/text/ACn11-1.prn

Individual articles from this issue are available at:

http://www.ais.org/~jrh/acn/text/acn11-1.articles/

We appreciate having all our subscribers and readers. We welcome
comments, criticisms, new subscribers and submissions.

The Net is a precious development. Let's remember Michael and fight
to keep it a wonderful place.

For the Amateur Computerist,

Jay Hauben jrh@ais.org

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Special Issue 5/1/02 Volume 11 No. 1

In Memory of Michael Hauben: Discoverer of Netizens

Table of Contents

[1] Introduction
[2] The Emergence of the Netizen
[3] Michael, Computers and the Net
[4] Work And Life of Michael Hauben
[5] Some of Michael's Accomplishments
[6] In Memoriam: a Netizen
[7] Giving Back to the World
[8] Thoughts Regarding Michael's Work
[9] Mike: Sketches
[10] "Netizens" in Hebrew Dictionary
[11] A Tribute

Writings by Michael Hauben
[12] Preface: What is a Netizen?
[13] What the Net Means to Me
[14] Declaration of the Rights of Netizens
[15] Democracy: SDS and the Net
[16] The Untold History of the ARPANET

[17] Berlin Report: The Vision Lives

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Date: Sat, 1 Jun 2002 15:51:47 -0400 (EDT)
From: jrh@ais.org (Jay Hauben)
Subject: [netz] Email from japan

Hi,

Ronda and I received an email message from Japan I want to share with you.
It is at the bottom of this message and also available at:

http://www.ais.org/~jrh/acn/text/ACn11-1_Epilogue.txt

Jay

PS: The memorial issue honoring Michael's life and work is at:

http://www.ais.org/~jrh/acn/text/acn11-1.txt

- -------------------------email message from Japan------------------------

May 29, 2002

Dear Jay and Ronda,

Long time no see.

Your beloved son Michael Hauben will return soon.

On May 22, 2002, I got an E-mail from a TV film making
company in central Japan. They are preparing for a teaching
material to be used in the satellite lecture of basic
contemporary writings that refer to Netizen. The writing is
taken from the lines of Shumpei Kumon's "Time of Netizen
chapter 1 'What is Netizen'." The lines will be used for an
entrance exam of a university in Japan.

The film maker was looking for the picture of Michael Hauben
and found some of them on my web site.
http://www.coara.or.jp/~mieko/hauben/hauben.htm

They will capture a picture of Michael from the site and
insert it into the exam paper. The satellite network will air
the film on June 17 for the students who take the course .

I am very glad to know that Michael is still living with us
and will live in the hearts of young Japanese students.


Mieko and Kenichi Nagano
Oita Japan

- ----------------------------------
Kenichi Nagano
E-mail: naganokenichi@hotmail.com
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Date: Tue, 4 Jun 2002 00:11:54 EDT
From: SimonHardyB@cs.com
Subject: Re: [netz] Email from japan

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- - Jay, this is wonderful news! Further proof that Mike's seminal work will
live on in the hearts and minds of people worldwide. Thank you for sharing
this wonderful e-mail.


- - Simon


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Date: Thu, 27 Jun 2002 13:59:31 -0400 (EDT)
From: ronda@panix.com
Subject: [netz] A Sequel to Netizens and a Play about Netizens?

In honor of the life and work of Michael Hauben (5/1/73-6/27/01) and
the concept of Netizen that he helped spread around the world,
we have published a special issue of the Amateur Computerist.
It is available via email by writing jrh@ais.org or from

http://www.ais.org/~jrh/acn/text/acn11-1.txt

Michael's earliest writing about the social impact of the Internet
were posted online in 1992/3. He coauthored the book "Netizens:
On the History and Impact of Usenet and the Internet" which was
available online since January 10, 1994 and in a published edition
by the IEEE Computer Society since May 1997.

Michael wanted there to be a sequel to Netizens. A book that would look
at the potential for the development of the Internet (and the Netizen)
that Michael recognized in 1992-1993 when he first did his online
research, and compare that to what has happened 10 years later.
We welcome collaboration and contributions toward such a sequel.

Also Michael wanted there to be a play dramatizing Netizens.
We also welcome collaboration toward such an effort.

We are planning some form of memorial to honor Michael's life and
work and welcome suggestions and contributions from the online netizen
community.


Ronda
ronda@panix.com
http://www.columbia.edu/~hauben/

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Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2002 19:19:54 -0400 (EDT)
From: <ronda@panix.com>
Subject: [netz] Article about Usenet and Usenet Archives - Comments encouraged

I thought folks on the Netizens list would find this article of interest.

I welcome comments and discussion about it. Ronda


Abstract

This article explores the conflict between the cooperative online culture
of users who have created Usenet and the corporate commodification of
Usenet posts by companies archiving the posts. The clash of decision-
making processes is presented thorough the details of how Usenet
users choose to petition a company to provide protection for the
public archives it had collected. The company disregarded the petition
and the archives were sold to another company. The new company has begun
to put its own copyright symbol on the posts in its archives. How will
such a commodification affect the cooperative nature of Usenet itself
and the continuing vitality of Usenet's cooperative culture The article
explores this culture clash and considers possible consequences.


from "Commodifying Usenet and the Usenet Archive or Continuing the
Online Cooperative Usenet Culture?" by Ronda Hauben
in Science Studies 15:1(2002), 61-68

http://www.columbia.edu/~rh120/other/usenetstts.pdf

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Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2002 20:37:41 -0400
From: "Luis G. Dequesada" <lgd42@hotmail.com>
Subject: [netz] GOOGLE'S PIRACY

Hello: My opinion about this so called "commodityfication" of the USENET
archives is not only another step towards the privatization of the internet
it is sheer piracy. What was once free to access is now privatized! I'd call
it theft by purchase, much like the Alaska and other similar purchases at
bargain basement prices!
Lou De Quesada



_________________________________________________________________
MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos:
http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx

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Date: Sun, 25 Aug 2002 00:17:19 -0400 (EDT)
From: jrh@ais.org (Jay Hauben)
Subject: [netz] Hi and a NYC dinner this coming Thursday

Hi All,

I hope somehow readers of this list have been able to have a productive
summer. The editors of the Amateur Computerist have been working on the
next issue which will attempt to see how the concept of netizens is doing
now almost 10 years after Michael popularized it with his writings. A call
for articles and suggestions for this issue will be forth coming shortly.

Three New York area netizens list readers are planning to eat together
this Thursday August 29 at 6:00pm in the Upper Westside of Manhattan. We
hope there will be other list subscribers who might want to join us.

If you are interested please contact me at jrh@ais.org for the location or
to suggest a different day if this Thursday won't work for you.

I wish each of you well in your current projects.

These are hard times but we should take strength from the work we have
done together and keep the netizens list going.

Take care.

Jay

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Date: Mon, 2 Sep 2002 22:50:18 -0400 (EDT)
From: <ronda@panix.com>
Subject: [netz] Call for Submission "The Emergence of the Netizen 1992/3 - 2002/3"

Call for Submission
for upcoming issue of the Amateur Computerist
The emergence of the netizen - 1992/1993 - 2002/2003
What has been the evolution?


The emergence of the netizen was formulated by Michael Hauben as part
of the online research he was doing in 1992/1993. He recognized that
there were people online who considered themselves to be citizens of
the net (net.citizen). These users were seeking to spread access for
all to the Net. They understood the importance of the Net in
spreading human to human computer facilitated communication. These
users recognized the need to contribute to make the Net a valuable
resource for all.

Michael formulated the concept in an introduction to the new world
that was being born online. (See introduction and conclusion to
"The Net and the Netizen: The Impact the Net has on People's Lives",
first posted in 1993, and then published in a print edition in 1997
and also available online: http://www.columbia.edu/~hauben/netbook )

Some of Michael's early research appeared on Usenet and then in the
Amateur Computerist newsletter. His research inspired others to
apply or develop the concept of netizen.

It is now 10 years later. We would like to document the further
development and application of the concept of netizen (and of
the vision of the future of the net) that developed since
Michael's research in 1992/1993. Also we want to project into the
future about what the emergence of the netizen can mean to the
further development of the Internet and of our society in general.

We are seeking submissions, including articles, poems, cartoons,
stories, plays etc. that develop or explore the concept of Netizen
that has emerged along with the development of the Internet and
Usenet.

Submissions are due Sept 30, 2002. Please write and let us know if you
will have a submission or if you have an idea/interest/suggestion
for the upcoming issue.

Long live the netizen and netizenship.

Send submissions to

jrh@ais.org
ronda@ais.org

Ronda Hauben
Editor
The Amateur Computerist

http://www.ais.org/~jrh/acn

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Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2002 19:45:54 -0400 (EDT)
From: <ronda@panix.com>
Subject: [netz] ICANN contract up Sept 30. What is to be done?

"September Deadline: Can the ICANN Model Be Revised?"


"On September 30, 2002, the Memorandum of Understanding (MOU) between
the US Department of Commerce (DOC) and ICANN, the corporation created
to private the infrastructure of the Internet, will expire. As the
deadline is soon approaching, a burning question remains: Can a private
entity and a public treasure be mixed?" (The public treasure is the Internet.)


http://www.circleid.com/articles/2532.asp

The article in the above URL begins to raise the question what
is needed instead of ICANN

Ronda

ronda@ais.org
ronda@panix.com

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Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2002 19:52:00 -0400 (EDT)
From: <ronda@panix.com>
Subject: [netz] ICANN and the DOC Can't

I thought this would be of interest to those on the netizens mailing
list:

The contract between ICANN and the U.S. Department of Commerce (DOC)
was to expire on September 30, 2002. Instead of welcoming input into
their process of determining if the contract should be renewed,
the U.S. government announced that they were renewing the contract
with ICANN for one more year. They made their announcement on
September 20, 2002. What is the significance of the DOC rushing
to announce their one year renewal of the ICANN contract and
what is the challenge to those who are concerned about the Internet
and its future? More than ever before there is a need to consider
the US government activity regarding ICANN and not only focus
on ICANN's failures but also on the role played by the US government
in creating and then continuing to promote ICANN.

See "ICANN and the DOC Can't"
http://www.circleid.com/articles/2538.asp


Ronda
ronda@ais.org


http://www.columbia.edu/~rh120
http://www.columbia.edu/~rh120/other

Submissions due on September 30, 2002 for the upcoming issue of the
Amateur Computerist on the emergence of the Netizen.
http://www.ais.org/~ronda/new.papers/netizen-call.txt

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Date: Mon, 7 Oct 2002 15:29:05 -0400 (EDT)
From: <ronda@panix.com>
Subject: [netz] Only more democracy can save democracy

What do Netizens do about the US government's plan to make war on Iraq?

If there is no democracy in the US, how can we be calling for
a regime change in other countries to make them more democratic?
(And if there were democracy in the US, we wouldn't be calling
for a regime change in any other country, but setting a good
example here.)

I called the NY Senators and their local phones were either busy
or not taking messages.

Hilary Clinton's local number 688-6262 tells you it is a voice mail box
and you have to hang up and dial 212 and the number again.
I did that and got the same message.

Charles Schumer's number was busy (212-486-4430) and I couldn't get
through.

I decided to call the White House (202-456-1111) I had to wait
about 15 minutes to speak to someone on the comment lines.
I asked what we could do since the neither the President nor
Congress appear to have any concern that the people in the US
don't want a war and that millions of people around the world
don't want a war against Iraq.

The person I spoke with just asked what State I was from. Then
she gave me the telephone numbers of the Senators from NY.

I called Hilary Clinton's office (202-224-4451). When a staffer
picked up the phone I asked what people could do as people don't
want a war against Iraq but it seems the President and Congress
are intent on attacking Iraq.

I was told that he would put me through to Charles Schumer's office
in Washington. He did and I got a busy signal.

I called back using the number I had gotten from the Comment line
at the White House for Charles Schumer(202-224-6542)

After several rings and then being put on hold for several minutes,
a staffer answered the phone. I asked his name. He said Kevin.
I asked what the Senator's position was on the war. He said he
is undecided. He said he would pass on what I said to the Senator.
I expressed the concern that there seems no democracy in the US
but that the Internet was created through a collaborative and
democratic process. That we need to be supporting more democracy
not threatening other countries and the UN if they don't join
the US government in waging an illegitimate war against another
country. Also that there is the need for more democracy here in
the US as the real issues like the corporate corruption, and the
lack of universal health care and lack of prescription drugs for
elderly and lack of labor rights, etc are making life very difficult
for many sectors of the population in the US. If the US were
interested in advocating democracy around the world, it would
set a good example here at home. While the opposite is happening.

The staffer said he would convey my sentiments to the Senator.
I didn't see how he could since he didn't seem to be asking
any questions or taking any notes.

So that was the best America's representative form of democracy
seems to offer its citizens. Not very adequate to the problems
facing the people in the US and around the world.

What are we to do to have more democracy?

That is the question that needs to be raised and somehow answered.

And how do the people of the US and around the world prevent the
US government from attacking Iraq and offering other countries the
Iraq oil reserves etc?

This is a serious problem the peoples of the world are faced with.

The German people spoke up through their elections and the British
people through their demonstrations in London and then the Italian
people by demonstrating around Italy. In the US there are demonstrations
as well like the one in Central Park NY yesterday. And at church
services there were speeches against making a war against Iraq.

We have been given challenges in the past. Hopefully we will
find some means to take on this challenge.

Cheers

Ronda

ronda@ais.org

Netizens: On the History and Impact of Usenet and the Internet
http://www.columbia.edu/~hauben/netbook

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End of Netizens-Digest V1 #404
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