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Netizens-Digest       Tuesday, February 26 2002       Volume 01 : Number 396 

Netizens Association Discussion List Digest

In this issue:

[netz] Terror Law: A win for fear, a loss for freedom
[netz] Call for submissions
[netz] US court asserts jurisdiction in ICANN dispute
[netz] Merry Christmas & Happy New Year
Re: [netz] Merry Christmas & Happy New Year
[netz] LAT: FREENETS GETTING A NEW LEASE ON LIFE
Re: [netz] LAT: FREENETS GETTING A NEW LEASE ON LIFE
[netz] Thoughts about Michael Hauben
[netz] A request for help
[netz] Let's keep up the good fight!
[netz] Hi Everyone

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Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2001 21:14:47 -0500 (EST)
From: jrh@ais.org (Jay Hauben)
Subject: [netz] Terror Law: A win for fear, a loss for freedom

From: Yvonne Liu <yvonne@liu.com>

The Anti Terrorism Bill was signed into law on Friday by President Bush.
The most controversial surveillance sections of the law will not expire
until *2005*! See Wired News article:
http://www.wired.com/news/conflict/0,2100,47901,00.html

The ACLU protests the law: http://www.aclu.org/safeandfree/index.html

Another interesting link of note, list maintained by the Electronic Frontier
Foundation of websites censored after Sept. 11th:
http://www.eff.org/Privacy/Surveillance/Terrorism_militias/antiterrorism_chi
ll.html


October 12, 2001
Antiterrorism Bill: Security Trumps Privacy
http://www.interactiveweek.com/article/0,3658,s%253D605%2526a%253D16388,00.a
sp

By Doug Brown

Netizens will lose some of their privacy rights and businesses will find it
harder to curb the snooping appetites of authorities under antiterrorism
legislation that Congress expects to send to the president next week.

After nearly a month of tense negotiations and high-wire political
gamesmanship, the House and Senate late this week passed similar but
separate versions of a Department of Justice package that would loosen
federal wiretap laws and give authorities greater cybersurveillance powers.

Congressional leaders expected to have a compromise version ready for the
president next week.

The final product will likely resemble the version passed by the Senate.
That bill covers a wide range of antiterrorism measures, from immigration to
money laundering to wiretapping. For the Internet, the bill:


* Lets authorities collect unspecified, undefined information about Web
browsing and e-mail, without the involvement of a judge.
* Allows universities and network administrators, among others, to
authorize surveillance without any judicial review.
* Enables authorities to get "roving wiretaps," which would let them
snoop on people from phone to phone and from computer to computer, even if a
suspect wasn't in control of the device; the provision could, for example,
let the government tap all computers in a library, if a suspect were using
one of them.
* Lets criminal wiretaps, including those for the Internet, be conducted
under the lower standards of foreign intelligence gathering; no probable
cause would be required.
* Overrides existing privacy laws for sensitive categories of records,
including medical records.

Civil libertarians and Internet businesses are particularly concerned that
the provision gives authorities access to Web browsing and e-mail
information without judicial review. Computer communications would be
subject to the same rules girding pen registers and trap-and-trace devices
used to capture the incoming and outgoing phone numbers of criminal
suspects. Pen registers and trap-and-trace orders are rubber-stamped by
authorities. If officials want to capture the content of phone
conversations, however, they must prove probable cause of a crime to a
judge.

Web Trail Seen as Content

Civil liberties advocates maintain that the paths of visited URLs and e-mail
subject lines, which could be captured by authorities under the new law, are
much more revealing about people than phone numbers, and in fact, constitute
content. As content, it should be much harder for authorities to be able to
snoop on most computer communications, they argue.

Internet businesses are also concerned about the related liability issues.
If they are required to hand over more personal information about people,
they say, they need assurances that they won't suddenly be opened up to new
lawsuits.

"Most in the Internet industry are very worried about several provisions,
which go to the practical realities of compliance," said Kevin McGuiness,
executive director of NetCoalition.com, an Internet industry trade group.
"They want to make sure their legal risks don't increase because of their
compliance."

The Senate passed its bill late Thursday, Oct. 11, and adjourned for the
weekend. House lawmakers "worked late into the night and then started early
the next morning," changing their bill to nearly mirror the Senate bill, a
House Committee on the Judiciary spokesman said.

The Senate's late approval and subsequent departure infuriated House
lawmakers, especially members of the Judiciary Committee, who had spent
nearly a month toiling over the nitty-gritty of a bill that members believed
best balanced the need for greater surveillance powers by authorities while
protecting citizens' civil liberties. The Bush administration favored the
Senate bill because it hewed closer to the administration's more
spy-friendly desires.

"Why should we care?" asked Rep. David Obey, D-Wis., during volatile debate
about the hastily revised bill. "It's only the Constitution; it's only
individual liberty at stake."

One key sticking point between the houses has been whether the surveillance
powers should be extended for only a specified time. The Senate has no
so-called "sunset" provision on its bill. The House, however, wants the
expanded surveillance powers to expire in three to five years.




Copyright (c) 2001 Ziff Davis Media Inc. All Rights Reserved.

- --
Yvonne Liu
+ y@onomatopoeik.com
+ http://onomatopoeik.com
+ vox: 646 321 5710

³If I am not for myself, then who will be for me? And if I am only for
myself, then what am I? And if not now, when?² - Rabbi Hillel

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Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2001 23:35:16 -0500 (EST)
From: jrh@ais.org (Jay Hauben)
Subject: [netz] Call for submissions

The editors of the Amateur Computerist are planning an issue for Spring
2002 in memory of Michael Hauben. We plan to include tributes and memorial
pieces about Michael and his work. We welcome contributions from people
who knew Michael or who know his work. In addition work on the theme of
netizens is invited.

Michael is perhaps best known for his popularization of netizens. In
1993 he wrote:

"Welcome to the 21st century. You are a Netizen, or a Net
Citizen, and you exist as a citizen of the world thanks to
the global connectivity that the Net makes possible. You
consider everyone as your compatriot. You physically live in
one country but you are in contact with much of the world
via the global computer network.

"The situation I describe is only a prediction of the future,
but a large part of the necessary infrastructure currently
exists...Every day more computers attach to the existing network
and every new computer adds to the user base -- at least twenty
five million people are interconnected today..."

"We are seeing a revitalization of society. The frameworks are
being redesigned from the bottom up. A new more democratic world
is becoming possible."

Michael's original webpage is still accessible at:

http://www.columbia.edu/~hauben/


Please send inquiries or submissions to:

wrohler@mediaone.net or jrh@ais.org


The deadline for submissions is January 7, 2002.


For the Amateur Computerist,

Jay Hauben

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Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2001 12:17:21 -0500 (EST)
From: jrh@ais.org (Jay Hauben)
Subject: [netz] US court asserts jurisdiction in ICANN dispute

On the online mailing list

BNA's Internet Law News (ILN) - 12/6/01

it is reported that a US federal court has reasserted jurisdiction in a
dispute already decided by ICANN's dispute resolution procedure. ICANN is
part of the effort by the US executive branch to privatize the crucial
central functions of the Internet. But in this case, a federal court has
reasserted a governmental presence in domain name questions. The court's
decision makes interesting reading and a URL is given for it at the end of
the BNA's copyrighted report (note: ACPA = Anticybersquatting Consumer
Protection Act):

"FIRST CIRCUIT RULES ACPA CAN BE USED TO OVERRULE ICANN UDRP
In an important new decision, the First Circuit Court of
Appeals has ruled that a U.S. court can apply the
Anticybersquatting act to overturn an ICANN UDRP decision.
The decision stems from a dispute over the corinthians.com
domain. After a WIPO panelist ordered the domain
transferred to a Brazilian soccer team, the domain name
owner sought to have a federal court declare that he was not
a cybersquatter under ACPA and declare that the name should
not be transferred. The district court refused, ruling that
there was no live dispute and declining to rule on the case.
The appellate court overturned, finding that there was in
fact a dispute over the domain itself and that Section
1114(2)(D)(v) of the ACPA "provides a registrant who has
lost a domain name under the UDRP with a cause of action for
an injunction returning the domain name if the registrant
can show that she is in compliance with the ACPA."
Decision at
<http://www.ca1.uscourts.gov/cgi-bin/getopn.pl?OPINION=01-1197.01A>"

The BNA's Internet Law News is Compiled by Professor Michael
Geist, BNA Consulting Editor.

To contact Professor Geist directly, please send e-mails to:
mgeist@uottawa.ca. To receive your own free personal copy of
BNA's Internet Law News visit http://ecommercecenter.bna.com.

Copyright (c) 2001 by The Bureau of National Affairs, Inc.,
Washington, DC 20037.

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Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2001 00:04:32 +0100
From: Dan Duris <dusoft@staznosti.sk>
Subject: [netz] Merry Christmas & Happy New Year

Dear fellow netizens,

I wish you great Christmas time spent in your family circle and
successful year 2002.

yours,

dan (from Slovakia - www.slovensko.com)
- --------------------------
email: dusoft@staznosti.sk
ICQ: 17932727

*- 8-bit era was good one, we used to play for a joy -*

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Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2001 12:36:00 -0800 (PST)
From: regina e walls <regewalls@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [netz] Merry Christmas & Happy New Year

Happy Holidays to You.
Please take me off your mailing list.
Thank You
- --- Dan Duris <dusoft@staznosti.sk> wrote:
> Dear fellow netizens,
>
> I wish you great Christmas time spent in your family
> circle and
> successful year 2002.
>
> yours,
>
> dan (from Slovakia - www.slovensko.com)
> --------------------------
> email: dusoft@staznosti.sk
> ICQ: 17932727
>
> *- 8-bit era was good one, we used to play for a joy
> -*
>
>


__________________________________________________
Do You Yahoo!?
Send your FREE holiday greetings online!
http://greetings.yahoo.com

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Date: Sat, 29 Dec 2001 16:37:08 -0500 (EST)
From: jrh@ais.org (Jay Hauben)
Subject: [netz] LAT: FREENETS GETTING A NEW LEASE ON LIFE

Hi,

I think readers of the netizens list will find the article refered to from
the Los Angeles Times interesting. The Los Angeles Freenet charges $40 per
year for Internet access and access to its local Freenet community
including a find repository of medical information.

Take care and may we all make some progress in this new year.

Jay
- -----------------------------------------------------------

Subject: [Discuss] [isoc-ny] LAT: FREENETS GETTING A NEW LEASE ON LIFE (fwd)
Sender: discuss-admin@ISOC-NY.org
Date: Sat, 29 Dec 2001 01:08:34 -0500 (EST)



Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2001 20:42:49 -0500
From: WWWhatsup <joly@dti.net>


> FREENETS GETTING A NEW LEASE ON LIFE
> Issue: Digital Divide
> For many Americans, an Internet connection has become a critical tool, but
> many cannot easily afford it. With standard access rates averaging more than
> $200 a year, it's easier for people of limited means to get a computer than
> it is to maintain an Internet connection. As most free commercial Internet
> providers have bit the dust, the freenet movement is being resurrected in
> America, after years of decline. Freenets, which offer cheap or free
> Internet service and are usually staffed by volunteers, began in Cleveland
> in 1986. Over the next decade, thousands of community-based network
> providers sprang up all over the country. But when companies such as Juno
> and NetZero started giving away Internet, most of the freenets withered
> away. A few survived, however, and with the need for low-cost Internet
> access still acute today, these organizations are answering the call.
> [La Times, AUTHOR: Dave Wilson]
> (http://www.latimes.com/technology/la-000100643dec20.story?coll=la%2Dheadlines%2Dtechnology)


source: http://www.benton.org/Resources
- --

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Date: Sat, 29 Dec 2001 19:28:27 EST
From: Pjchipkin@aol.com
Subject: Re: [netz] LAT: FREENETS GETTING A NEW LEASE ON LIFE

Jay---I made sure to get suckered into AOL right from the getgo and, it is
true, they provide customer service by phone, which I take advantage of as
needed. I like that support for the moments when problems arise.

I'm going to be a published author!!! My boss has asked me to write our
company's latest column for City Voices, a well-distributed and widely-read
newspaper in the mental health field. Five hundred words about my life and
work. I expect to give them a run for their money...

I'd like to get together on Monday, during the day. Yvonne is working. I am
home and the house will be clean for the New Years. Money is not available
for the occasion. Call.

Pablo

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Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2001 00:44:18 -0500 (EST)
From: jrh@ais.org (Jay Hauben)
Subject: [netz] Thoughts about Michael Hauben

Hi,

The Amateur Computerist is planning an issue commemorating the life and
work of Michael hauben for this spring. The following submission was
received from Lou de Quesada. I thought the readers of this list might
find it of value.

Take care.

Jay
- --------
The following are my thoughts regarding Michael's work and
legacy.

Perhaps Michael Hauben's greatest ideal and contribution was that
he was people oriented. He envisioned government just as the US
forefathers meant it to be, "a government by the people and for
the people"; nothing less is acceptable and that a true people's
government could be strengthened and improved by public debate.
Michael's idea wasn't far fetched or utopian. Michael's idea was
exactly what our forefathers intended our government to be. A
government not in the hands of the big corporations and their
lobbyists, but a truly people oriented democracy. Michael saw in
computers and the Internet an unprecedented means of
communication and education which needs to be preserved for
collective use and not for the private use of a privileged
class. The computer and its information highway are and must be
for equally shared public use, so Michael created Netizens a
collective for citizens equally sharing the Internet as a right
not as a service. One needs only to read the principles in which
Netizens was founded, the rights of Netizens to understand
Michael's intentions, ideals and gift for all of us and all of
mankind.

The way I see it, Michael, like Cuba's Jose Marti chose to side
with the poor, the workers and all the little and disenfranchised
people, as Marti once said and wrote, "CON LOS POBRES DE LA
TIERRA, QUIERO YO MI SUERTE ECHAR", which translates, "WITH THE
POOR PEOPLE OF THIS EARTH, I WANT TO SHARE MY FATE". And he did,
fighting for the rights of all the poor and the under served to
become computer literate, to enable them to freely logging in and
navigate the Internet. Therefore it is my opinion that in
founding Netizens, with the help of his loving parents Ronda and
Jay, Michael founded what I call "THE SPANISH REPUBLIC OF THE
INTERNET". The Spanish Republic 1931-1939 was founded on truly
democratic principles and justice for all, just like our own in
1776. It is therefore our duty to defend Netizens and keep it
alive, just like the loyal citizens of Spain and their brothers
and sisters from all over the world came to Spain to defend it
from fascism and the never ending greed of those who wanted to
keep Spain and its people in eternal servitude. Unfortunately
"THE GOOD FIGHT" in Spain was lost along with many other "good
fights" in recent decades. So we must therefore carry on the
torch and keep Michael's idea, NETIZENS, alive to ensure that
complete privatization of the Internet never happens, because it
is morally wrong, because in time, logging in would be a private
commodity, reserved for a privileged few. They say people truly
die when their ideas are no longer remembered and no longer
matter to anyone. Because Michael's idea means so much to the
underprivileged and to all of us, who shared his vision of
justice for all, we must keep the fight so his idea of a free and
collective Internet will keep on existing as a right for
everyone, for mankind's benefit!

Luis de Quesada
lgd42@hotmail.com
_________________________________________________________________

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Date: Sun, 6 Jan 2002 17:21:07 -0500 (EST)
From: jrh@ais.org (Jay Hauben)
Subject: [netz] A request for help

Hi,

The following was posted on the alt.society.netizens newsgroup on Jan 3,
2002. That newsgroup probably has low traffic. I hope readers of this list
might find the time and spirit to send these students an answer to their
question. You might share that answer with this list as well.

Take care.

Jay

From: (feustel@stolaf.edu)
Subject: Students Need Information
Newsgroups: alt.society.netizens

Date: 2002-01-03 22:30:17 PST

For a class at St. Olaf College we are studying the sociology of the
Internet. For a class project, we thought we would post a message on
this usenet group because we are currently reading the NETIZENS text
by Michael Hauben. We are interested in replies from you regarding
your views in how the Internet has influenced our society.

Thank you for your assistance.

St. Olaf Students

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Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2002 18:33:47 -0500 (EST)
From: jrh@ais.org (Jay Hauben)
Subject: [netz] Let's keep up the good fight!

> From Luis G. Dequesada

Dear Fellow and Sister Netizens:

A special memorial issue of the Amateur Computerist in honor of our fallen
leader Michael Hauben will be forthcoming. If you think Michael's
contribution to computerists and to the ordinary citizens of this world is
important enough, would you please take a little time and write what you
think about his work and submit it to the list? It doesn't have to be
long. In your own words please tell us what you think of Michael's work.
It is very important that we hear from you. If we all cooperate and keep
Netizens alive, we are keeping Michael's work and memory alive and we can
effectively fight the privatization and government sponsored privatization
of the Internet.

LET US KEEP SAYING NO TO THE PRIVATIZATION OF THE INTERNET! LET'S KEEP
ALIVE THE GOOD FIGHT ON BEHALF OF THE ORDINARY AND UNDERPRIVILEGED
CITIZENS OF THE WORLD!

Sincerely,

Luis de Quesada

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Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2002 10:42:27 -0500 (EST)
From: Brenda Chen <brendachen519@yahoo.ca>
Subject: [netz] Hi Everyone

Hi Everyone
My name is Brenda. I'm new to the list. I joined the
list because partly I'm interested in this topic, and
the other reason is that it's part of my assignment
for my internet technology class. So if I make any
mistakes, please pardon my ignorance, thanks!

______________________________________________________________________
Find, Connect, Date! http://personals.yahoo.ca

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End of Netizens-Digest V1 #396
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