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Doom Editing Digest Vol. 01 Nr. 530
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doom-editing-digest Monday, 25 December 1995 Volume 01 : Number 530
Re: NWT and .GIF/.PCX DOOM1.9
Re: NWT and .GIF/.PCX DOOM1.9
Re: DoomIII TOTAL CONVERSION
Re: NWT and .GIF/.PCX DOOM1.9
Re: DoomIII TOTAL CONVERSION
Re: NWT and .GIF/.PCX DOOM1.9
DoomIII TOTAL CONVERSION
Re: DoomIII TOTAL CONVERSION
Re: DoomIII TOTAL CONVERSION
Re: DoomIII TOTAL CONVERSION
Re: DoomIII TOTAL CONVERSION
Re: DoomIII TOTAL CONVERSION
Re: D**mIII TOTAL CONVERSION
Re: DoomIII TOTAL CONVERSION
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From: Michael Gummelt <gummelt@pegasus.montclair.edu>
Date: Sat, 23 Dec 1995 20:41:05 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: NWT and .GIF/.PCX DOOM1.9
In regards to yourquestion about graphics and Doom, I suggest
you use Wintex and paint Shop Pro 3.11. Very nice. Also, I
think deluxe paint ii is good for certain effects (Id uses
Deluxe Paint).
Mike Gummelt
Working feverishly to get Insane Weapons patch done...
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From: michael.hoenie@sharecity.com (MICHAEL HOENIE)
Date: Sat, 23 Dec 95 19:16:00 -0700
Subject: Re: NWT and .GIF/.PCX DOOM1.9
- -> I am using Picture Publisher 6.0 and Wintex 4.1 and I have had great
- -> results! But I used to use the old PP4.0 Le like you are and you
- -> might check and see what you image type is (rgb or cmyk or pallette
- -> color) cause it will mess up everything big time. I'm not familiar
- -> with NWT but I am pretty good with picture publisher so If anyone
- -> needs any help just ask.
I have the PP but don't know the version. I checked the RGB, CMYK or
PALETTE stuff, but can't see what could cause the problem. The frame
doesn't change, I mearly change the color. The format I'm using out of
NWT is .GIF (I've tried .PCX too), but however PP is saving it isn't
compatible with DOOM (ie. DOOM crashes hard...) And the colors are
distorted through viewing them in NWT.
I need to know what format it needs to be saved under, including all
types (RGB, etc...) to maintain the graphic format. Do I need to save it
in PP4 and find a convertor from that to .GIF?
michael.hoenie@sharecity.com
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From: Fairfax Shield McCandlish <fsm3m@fermi.clas.virginia.edu>
Date: Sat, 23 Dec 1995 23:13:15 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: DoomIII TOTAL CONVERSION
According to Joel Huenink:
>
> I would like to announce that I am working on a Doom III total conversion
> that will feature:
>
> *All new or modified doomII monsters
> *All new or modified weapons
> *All new 32 levels specially designed for DoomIII
> *Lots of new textures and pathces
> *Some new sounds
> *All new soundtrack
>
> If anyone out there in the Doom Editing community has any Ideas/suggestions
> or would like to contribute in any way feel free to reply!
>
Here's a suggestion: Name it something that isn't
copywrited yet, be original. The only DOOM3 I'll dl/buy is the
one (if it ever comes) by the people responsible for the
original DOOM and DOOM2, that's id.
-*Avatar*-
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From: jh32322@ltec.net (Joel Huenink)
Date: Sat, 23 Dec 1995 23:00:21 -0600
Subject: Re: NWT and .GIF/.PCX DOOM1.9
>
>-> I am using Picture Publisher 6.0 and Wintex 4.1 and I have had great
>-> results! But I used to use the old PP4.0 Le like you are and you
>-> might check and see what you image type is (rgb or cmyk or pallette
>-> color) cause it will mess up everything big time. I'm not familiar
>-> with NWT but I am pretty good with picture publisher so If anyone
>-> needs any help just ask.
>
>I have the PP but don't know the version. I checked the RGB, CMYK or
>PALETTE stuff, but can't see what could cause the problem. The frame
>doesn't change, I mearly change the color. The format I'm using out of
>NWT is .GIF (I've tried .PCX too), but however PP is saving it isn't
>compatible with DOOM (ie. DOOM crashes hard...) And the colors are
>distorted through viewing them in NWT.
>
>I need to know what format it needs to be saved under, including all
>types (RGB, etc...) to maintain the graphic format. Do I need to save it
>in PP4 and find a convertor from that to .GIF?
>
>michael.hoenie@sharecity.com
>
Once again I suggest you try Wintex 4.1 but if you insist I would save it as
a bmp(windows bitmap) and make sure it is pallette color. If you are trying
to change the color of a graphic through the use of one of PP's filters or
effects these are the correct steps involved.
1. modify your picture. The background will also turn some strange color.
2. mask the image then invert the mask.
3. Create object from mask.
4. Copy object to the clipboard.
5. reopen the original image
6. paste the new one with modified colors over the old one wit the cyan
background.
7. combine all objects with base and your done!
Joel Huenink
local doom guru
jh32322@ltec.net
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From: jdbaugh@ix.netcom.com (Justin Baugh )
Date: Sat, 23 Dec 1995 21:42:33 -0800
Subject: Re: DoomIII TOTAL CONVERSION
You wrote:
>
>According to Joel Huenink:
>>
>> I would like to announce that I am working on a Doom III total
conversion
>> that will feature:
>>
>> *All new or modified doomII monsters
>> *All new or modified weapons
>> *All new 32 levels specially designed for DoomIII
>> *Lots of new textures and pathces
>> *Some new sounds
>> *All new soundtrack
>>
>> If anyone out there in the Doom Editing community has any
Ideas/suggestions
>> or would like to contribute in any way feel free to reply!
>>
> Here's a suggestion: Name it something that isn't
>copywrited yet, be original. The only DOOM3 I'll dl/buy is the
>one (if it ever comes) by the people responsible for the
>original DOOM and DOOM2, that's id.
>
> -*Avatar*-
>
I hate to say this, but all of that sounds like the wad would be bigger
than the doom2 wad itself, plus dehacked patches, etc, it might be more
trouble than it's worth, even if the levels kick ass.
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From: jdbaugh@ix.netcom.com (Justin Baugh )
Date: Sat, 23 Dec 1995 21:40:16 -0800
Subject: Re: NWT and .GIF/.PCX DOOM1.9
You wrote:
>
>
>Thanks to all who helped with DEHACKED. It is rather un-documented,
but most
>of it is trial and error. Is there anyone putting together a
comprehensive
>list of well tested dehacked patches like a SWAG packet? (SWAG is an archive
>full of PASCAL and C source code, complete with index & etc).
>
>Now that I've figured out DEHACKED, I have still been having trouble with
>the images in the .WAD files. I have been using NWT to pull .PCX or .GIF
>images out. As far as I can tell, they are 256 color images. Unfortunatly,
>any time I edit them, I can't get the CYAN background to stay. Paintbrush
>that comes with windows isn't good enough. I have a digital scanner and
>"MicroGrafx Picture Publisher LE" which is an excellent editor. I can edit
>in 256 colors under multiple images.
>
>HOWEVER... I haven't figured out HOW to save the images so DOOM will use
>them correctly through NWT. I need some pointers to follow in maintaining
>files applicable to NWT and DOOM 1.9 (I am working soley with original DOOM
>1.9). How to keep the CYAN color for the background correctly. NWT and
>others seem to "warp" the color patterns, but upon display, they look fine
>(in MPP-LE... or VPIC or DVPEG).
>
>Thanks in advance!
>
>Thanks to all the great DOOM minds here. And yes, HAPPY BIRTHDAY DOOM!
>
>***
> * michael.hoenie@sharecity.com ** Michael S. Hoenie **
>
> * RM 1.3 * Eval Day 27 *
>
>
Actually, to edit all of my doom gifs or pcx's, i use aldus photostyler, and it
works fine for me. And I think the cyan background might go bye bye because you
need to specify that you want the cyan background in NWT's configuration..all the
gifs I export have the cyan background. I tink u hit alt-c to configure it, i'm
not sure, it says ALT-XX Config or something, and select CYAN for the background
color. That should fix it.
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From: graphiti@gcc.cc.md.us
Date: 24 Dec 1995 01:09:36 EDT
Subject: DoomIII TOTAL CONVERSION
DO>I would like to announce that I am working on a Doom III total conversion
DO>that will feature:
DO>*All new or modified doomII monsters
DO>*All new or modified weapons
DO>*All new 32 levels specially designed for DoomIII
DO>*Lots of new textures and pathces
DO>*Some new sounds
DO>*All new soundtrack
DO>If anyone out there in the Doom Editing community has any Ideas/suggestions
DO>or would like to contribute in any way feel free to reply!
DO>Joel Huenink
DO>local doom guru
DO>jh32322@ltec.net
I just have to commend you for taking on such a big project... good
luck!!!
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From: Pandion-Knight <s337239@student.uq.edu.au>
Date: Sun, 24 Dec 1995 18:21:38 +1000 (GMT+1000)
Subject: Re: DoomIII TOTAL CONVERSION
Do you want a modified map 01 of doom2.. its not original, but...
smirking,
Christopher Voutsis
Email: s337239@student.uq.edu.au
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From: Edwin Razafi <edwin@worldnet.net>
Date: Sun, 24 Dec 1995 13:38:02 +0100
Subject: Re: DoomIII TOTAL CONVERSION
At 17:15 23/12/95 -0600, you wrote:
>I would like to announce that I am working on a Doom III total conversion
>that will feature:
>
>*All new or modified doomII monsters
>*All new or modified weapons
>*All new 32 levels specially designed for DoomIII
I will be happy to help you in editing maps.In this way you could
concentrate others things.
You could organized a competition and olny the best level will be kept.
of course it 's just a suggestion.
********************************
RAZAFI EDWIN
-----------------------
E-mail:edwin@worldnet.ne
http://www.worldnet.net/~edwin
********************************
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From: raistlin@horizon.hit.net (Raistlin Majere)
Date: Sun, 24 Dec 1995 15:00:59 -0600
Subject: Re: DoomIII TOTAL CONVERSION
>DO>I would like to announce that I am working on a Doom III total conversion
>DO>that will feature:
>
>DO>*All new or modified doomII monsters
>DO>*All new or modified weapons
>DO>*All new 32 levels specially designed for DoomIII
>DO>*Lots of new textures and pathces
>DO>*Some new sounds
>DO>*All new soundtrack
>
>DO>If anyone out there in the Doom Editing community has any Ideas/suggestions
>DO>or would like to contribute in any way feel free to reply!
>
>DO>Joel Huenink
>DO>local doom guru
>DO>jh32322@ltec.net
Do you need any levels? My freind my a kick ass one that he'd let
you mess with. It's better than any level I've played. Almost.
Raistlin
raistlin@horizon.hit.net
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From: raistlin@horizon.hit.net (Raistlin Majere)
Date: Sun, 24 Dec 1995 14:57:03 -0600
Subject: Re: DoomIII TOTAL CONVERSION
>According to Joel Huenink:
>>
>> I would like to announce that I am working on a Doom III total conversion
>> that will feature:
>>
>> *All new or modified doomII monsters
>> *All new or modified weapons
>> *All new 32 levels specially designed for DoomIII
>> *Lots of new textures and pathces
>> *Some new sounds
>> *All new soundtrack
>>
>> If anyone out there in the Doom Editing community has any Ideas/suggestions
>> or would like to contribute in any way feel free to reply!
>>
> Here's a suggestion: Name it something that isn't
>copywrited yet, be original. The only DOOM3 I'll dl/buy is the
>one (if it ever comes) by the people responsible for the
>original DOOM and DOOM2, that's id.
>
> -*Avatar*-
>
Is this some brand new game that your going the get published that
will be out in the stores?
<Raistlin>
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From: jh32322@ltec.net (Joel Huenink)
Date: Sun, 24 Dec 1995 14:53:26 -0600
Subject: Re: DoomIII TOTAL CONVERSION
>At 17:15 23/12/95 -0600, you wrote:
>>I would like to announce that I am working on a Doom III total conversion
>>that will feature:
>>
>>*All new or modified doomII monsters
>>*All new or modified weapons
>>*All new 32 levels specially designed for DoomIII
>
>I will be happy to help you in editing maps.In this way you could
>concentrate others things.
>You could organized a competition and olny the best level will be kept.
>of course it 's just a suggestion.
>
>
>********************************
> RAZAFI EDWIN
> -----------------------
> E-mail:edwin@worldnet.ne
> http://www.worldnet.net/~edwin
>********************************
>
This might not be a bad idea. But before any maps are built I will release
monster info (new height, width, attack descriptions and other stats) and
all the new textures that I want to use For this theme. Right now I want
suggestions on new monsters and weapons mainly.
Joel Huenink
(local doom guru)
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From: jh32322@ltec.net (Joel Huenink)
Date: Sun, 24 Dec 1995 16:32:51 -0600
Subject: Re: D**mIII TOTAL CONVERSION
>First of all, you can't use the word "doom" in the name of your
>conversion. Trust me on this one, Id is very good at litigation!
>
>---
>Enigma (Ken Simpson) <ksimpson@sfu.ca>
>"Assume all technology 'guilty until proven innocent.'" -- Jerry Mander,
>"In the Absence of the Sacred."
>
I would like to clear up something. Obviously I can't use the name DoomIII
or any likeness of Doom ect. I am not trying to sell anything (unless ID
wants it) or rip anybody off!
I am working on a unnamed project that will have the doom feel using the
doomII engine (like every one else here) but will have lots of new/modified
stuff that goes along with the doom theme!
I don't have a name for it yet because it is under heavy constuction and I
don't know what to call it right now. So if everyone can quit telling me
what I already know, how about some constructive Ideas?
Joel Huenink
local d**m guru
jh32322@ltec.net
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From: jh32322@ltec.net (Joel Huenink)
Date: Sun, 24 Dec 1995 16:36:35 -0600
Subject: Re: DoomIII TOTAL CONVERSION
>>According to Joel Huenink:
>>>
>>> I would like to announce that I am working on a Doom III total conversion
>>> that will feature:
>>>
>>> *All new or modified doomII monsters
>>> *All new or modified weapons
>>> *All new 32 levels specially designed for DoomIII
>>> *Lots of new textures and pathces
>>> *Some new sounds
>>> *All new soundtrack
>>>
>>> If anyone out there in the Doom Editing community has any Ideas/suggestions
>>> or would like to contribute in any way feel free to reply!
>>>
>> Here's a suggestion: Name it something that isn't
>>copywrited yet, be original. The only DOOM3 I'll dl/buy is the
>>one (if it ever comes) by the people responsible for the
>>original DOOM and DOOM2, that's id.
>>
>> -*Avatar*-
>>
>
> Is this some brand new game that your going the get published that
>will be out in the stores?
>
> <Raistlin>
>
This will be a FREE add on to DOOM2. (Unless ID want's to market it) You
will be able to download it when it is finished.
Joel Huenink
local d**m guru
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