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doom-editing-digest Thursday, 23 November 1995 Volume 01 : Number 493

Graphic Importing
PolyObjects
Re: Hexen editing is here NOW!
Re: Hexen Thing List 0.02
WEEKLY REMINDER : Beginner's Questions
Hexen Thing info on www page
Re: Hexen Thing List 0.02
Re: Graphic Importing
Platform inside Platform ..Floating weapons...

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From: Pangier@AOL.COM
Date: Wed, 22 Nov 1995 00:53:02 -0500
Subject: Graphic Importing

Please forgive my greeness.. But I cannot for the life of me figure out how
to import new graphics into a pwad with DCK (either new graphics or ones from
a pwad that I liked) Speaking of DCK, Would anyone have a manual on it? Some
of the more complex things I am attempting require an in depth understanding
of the program.

HELP!!

Pangier@aol.com

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From: philip@thepoint.net (Philip Scott)
Date: Tue, 21 Nov 1995 23:15:30 +0100
Subject: PolyObjects

I've been having trouble getting PolyObjects to work. There are only two
pages in the Hexen Specs that I have (0.9). It might be also the editors
I'm using. Did the authors of HETH and DEEP actually try to make some
PolyObjects? Any help on how to set them up, how to put them to work would
be deeply appreciated (so would HCK . . .)

Phil


- ---------
philip@thepoint.net



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From: us018032@interramp.com
Date: Wed, 22 Nov 1995 08:14:58 -0500
Subject: Re: Hexen editing is here NOW!

At 06:06 PM 11/21/95 -0500, you wrote:
>Got into Ftp.cdrom.com finally! Got to the WadAuthor v1.0 and got Access
>Denied when I went to download the txt or zip file.

Hmm... That's odd. I was able to download it from the /pub/idgames/newstuff
directory yesterday. Is that the directory from which you tried to get it?

John


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From: Robert Forsman <thoth@cis.ufl.edu>
Date: Wed, 22 Nov 1995 09:00:14 EST
Subject: Re: Hexen Thing List 0.02

Robert Fenske Jr <fenske@rgfpc.electro.swri.edu> ,in message <Pine.LNX.3.91.951
121142906.105H-100000@rgfpc.electro.swri.edu>, wrote:

>
> Does the Hexen demo have all the sprites that the registered version
> has? If not, could those items that can only be used in the registered
> version somehow be indicated in the Hexen Thing List?

Why, so people can easily make WADs that work with the demo? I don't think
so.

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From: John Wakelin <johnw@datametrics.com>
Date: Wed, 22 Nov 95 9:49:49 -0500
Subject: WEEKLY REMINDER : Beginner's Questions

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From: Bernd Kreimeier <Bernd.Kreimeier@NeRo.Uni-Bonn.DE>
Date: Wed, 22 Nov 1995 17:28:10 +0100 (MET)
Subject: Hexen Thing info on www page

With permission by Mark Mathews, I put his exhaustive
HEXEN THING v0.02 info on the UDS Errata page at

http://www.nero.uni-bonn.de/~bernd/uds.html

Please note that you should send bug fixes and updates to
him at

mmathews@genesis.nred.ma.us

I'll put updated versions on the page as soon as I get
them from Mark. I hope that will ease things a bit for
those whose mail accounts suffer from large postings. Any
updates will be announced on this list.



B.

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From: Steven Towle <stevet3@ix.netcom.com>
Date: Wed, 22 Nov 1995 11:03:41 -0800
Subject: Re: Hexen Thing List 0.02

>> Does the Hexen demo have all the sprites that the registered version
>> has? If not, could those items that can only be used in the registered
>> version somehow be indicated in the Hexen Thing List?
>
> Why, so people can easily make WADs that work with the demo? I don't think
>so.

All I'm going to say about this is that all of the stuff (scripts, enemies,
textures, flats, etc..) that are it the first 4 stages are usuable. (DUH!)
But, all weapons and items are in the demo, that I know of. (I may be wrong)

Other Hexen notes:

Has anyone tried using NWT with the Hexen WAD? It works, although most of the
pictures are messed up due to a changed palette.

The MAPxx entries are NOT 0. They are actually 13 bytes long, and it sayes, in
ASCII, "version 2.3". Huh?

Unknown: The last 4 entries in the WAD: Named Hexen, Orb, Hub, and Chess.
Gusses?

- -Steve

Steve Towle
stevet3@ix.netcom.com
Machine tested, flame retardant, power where you need it.


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From: FrancisGA@AOL.COM
Date: Wed, 22 Nov 1995 15:46:08 -0500
Subject: Re: Graphic Importing

In a message dated 95-11-22 04:29:44 EST, you write:

>Please forgive my greeness.. But I cannot for the life of me figure out how
>to import new graphics into a pwad with DCK (either new graphics or ones
from
>a pwad that I liked) Speaking of DCK, Would anyone have a manual on it? Some
>of the more complex things I am attempting require an in depth understanding
>of the program.
>
>HELP!!

Import Grafix with DCK? Is that possible? (I dumped DCK when I found ED-209
:-). I always used wintex for Grafix importing. You could use NWT also. I
have heard that is is good, too.
Manual for DCK? Uh..., the online help? I think that's as much as you'll get.
:-(
- --
FrancisGA@aol.com
Wait a minute! Do you mean VIEW a grafix and texture name in DCK's texture
list? If so, It's easy in windeu, just load the pwad with the grafix in it.
For ED-209, merge your grafix with doom2 (using deusf), run setup, and select
the last option. This will recompile all of it's textures and flats data.
Then use deusf to restore your doom2 wad. I don't know about DCK, though.

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From: Bill_Campbell@corp.dialog.com (Bill Campbell)
Date: Wed, 22 Nov 1995 11:14:24 -0800
Subject: Platform inside Platform ..Floating weapons...


Any thaughts on this behaviour...


main sector sorounding this one has floor=0 ceil=128

1------------------
| | ======> Sector 1 floor=256 ceil=256
| 2------- |
| | | |
| | X |==> |
| | | c2=80| X= Plasma Rifle
| ------- f2=0 |
| | |
| ->Sr1 ## | ## Lowers outside sector 1
| |
----------------- ---> All 4 Lindefs are Platform Sr triggerd


I was experimenting with having a platform lower from inside the
ceiling to reveal another platform carrying a weapon. You would then
have to travel on the first platform to retrieve the weapon. As an
added feature I wanted the outside platform to sourround the player as
he grabbed the weapon from the inside platform.

After lowering the outside sector the first thing I noticed was
that the inside platform appears to have no lower texture and so the
weapon looks like its *floating* in mid air (cool) I guess this is the
ssee thru door effect maybe...(why does this happen?). When you travel
on the outside platform and reach the top of the inside one you get a
slight HOM effect :( as the top of the platform comes into your line
of sight (can I get rid of this?) AS you step onto the inside platform
to retrieve the weapon the outside sector raises around you *BUT* it
appears that each wall raises at different times!!!! This looks cool,
like each wall raised at a different time in quick succsession...can
be quite disturbing if the texture is a crusified dude :)

If you guys know about this, great .. I would love to get rid of
the HOM effect when the line of sight reaches the top of the inside
sector..

If you have no Idea what Im talking about I can email you a small
wad to demonstate this.


Thx

Doc

P.S. used DCK











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