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From:      owner-doom-editing-digest 
To: doom-editing-digest@nvg.unit.no
Subject: doom-editing-digest V1 #415
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doom-editing-digest Wednesday, 20 September 1995 Volume 01 : Number 415

Okay! I'll plug it again!
Re: (Fwd) STOP NUCLEAR TESTS
Re: Hacking obscure settings in the EXE
Re: (Fwd) STOP NUCLEAR TESTS
RFD: rec.games.computer.quake.{announce,misc,editing}
Re: (Fwd) STOP NUCLEAR TESTS (IMPORTANT ADMIN NOTE)
Re: (Fwd) STOP NUCLEAR TESTS
Re: (Fwd) STOP NUCLEAR TESTS
Re: (Fwd) STOP NUCLEAR TESTS
MIDI to MUS
deep water
Re: deep water
Re: MIDI to MUS
Re: (Fwd) STOP NUCLEAR TESTS

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From: LummoxJR@AOL.COM
Date: Tue, 19 Sep 1995 22:48:19 -0400
Subject: Okay! I'll plug it again!

DHE patches, you say?
These aren't at an FTP site, but there is a great Web page at:

Lummox JR's DeHackEd Grab Bag:
http://www.daimi.aau.dk/~hykkelbj/doom/special/DHE/index.html

It's full of patches and tips for DHE, including for the latest version, 3.0.
Also, these patches are just about guaranteed not to be the sloppy lock-up
prone kind often found in the public domain.
One of the best Doom-related pages on the Web; and I've looked. Certainly the
best for EXE hackers.

Lummox JR
shameless self-promoter

------------------------------

From: ryan@dodgenet.com
Date: Tue, 19 Sep 1995 20:55:26 -0500
Subject: Re: (Fwd) STOP NUCLEAR TESTS

>
>STOP NUCLEAR TESTS
>
>Letter from (forwarded):
>
> 1 SHIMIZU Seishi Physics, University of Tokyo, Japan
> 2 Yuichi Nishihara Physics, University of Tokyo, Japan
> 3 Hirohisa TANIGUCHI Physics, University of Tokyo, Japan
> 4 Takashi Tomoeda Physics, University of Tokyo, Japan
> 5 Tomoki KOBAYASHI Physics, University of Tokyo, Japan
> 6 Munehito ARAI Physics, University of Tokyo, Japan
> 7 Akira Okazaki Physics, University of Tokyo, Japan
> 8 Atsushi Matsumura Physics, Tohoku University, Japan
> 9 Kouta Yamamoto Chemistry, Tohoku University, Japan
> 10 Yasushi UJIOKA Degremont S.A., France
> 11 Toru Hara Universite de Paris Sud, France
> 12 Rene Bakker CEA - Sacley, France
> 13 David Garzella Universite de Paris Sud, France
> 14 Henk Blok Vrije Universiteit/NIKHEF, Amsterdam
> 15 Igor Passchier NIKHEF, Amsterdam
> 16 Ard van Sighem NIKHEF, Amsterdam
> 17 Johan Noordhoek KOL Leiden
> 18 C.M.C.M. van WoerkensKamerlingh Onnes Laboratory, Leiden
> 19 Annemarie Borst Vrije Universiteit Amsterdam
> 20 Gijs Nelemans Universiteit Utrecht
> 21 Susanne Buiter Universiteit Utrecht
> 22 Yvo Kok Paleomagnetic Lab., Utrecht
> 23 Thom Pick Paleomagnetic Lab., Utrecht University
> 24 Dagmar Olbertz Universiteit Utrecht
> 25 Eleonore Stutzmann Institut de Physique du Globe de Paris, France
> 26 Nicole Girardin Institut de Physique du Globe de Paris,
>France
> 27 Francois Girardin Ecole Nat. Sup. des Telecommunications,
>France
> 28 J.-P. Chaboureau Lab. Meteorologie Dynamique,France
> 29 F. CHERUY Lab. Meteorologie Dynamique, France
> 30 Herve Grenier Universite Louvain-la-Neuve, Begium
> 31 Olivier Lai Observatoire de Paris (Meudon), France
> 32 Christophe Dumas Institute For Astronomy (USA) + Obs de Paris
> (France) 33 Alan Harris Jet Propulsion Laboratory (USA)
> 34 Gerrit Verschuur Rhodes College, Memphis, TN, USA
> 35 Dap Hartmann Center for Astrophysics, Cambridge, MA, USA
> 36 Frank van den Bosch Leiden Observatory, Leiden, The Netherlands
> 37 Anthony Brown Leiden Observatory, Leiden, The Netherlands
> 38 Paulien Meijer Graduate School of Education, Leiden,
>The Netherlands
> 39 Wout Knol Centre Study Educ. & Instr., Leiden, The
>Netherlands
> 40 Ton Klein Centre Study Educ. & Instr., Leiden,
>The Netherlands
> 41 Harriet Vermeer Centre Study Educ. & Instr., Leiden, The
>Netherlands
> 42 Evelien Stoutjesdijk Developmental Ps., Leiden University, The
>Netherlands
> 43 Jeannet Kramer Soc. psychiatr., Univ. Groningen, The
>Netherlands
> 44 Tineke Oldehinkel Soc. psychiatry, RUG, The Netherlands
> 45 Catja Warmelink Groningen Centre for Gerontology
> 46 Peter van der Ende GCG, The Netherlands
> 47 Hans Gerritsen ARGO/NCG, The Netherlands
> 48 Harmen Oppewal Eindhoven Univ. of Tech, The Netherlands
> 49 Theo Arentze Eindhoven Univ. of Tech, The Netherlands
> 50 Eric Molin Eindhoven Univ. of Tech, The Netherlands
> 51 Peter van der Waerden Eindhoven Univ. of Tech, The Netherlands
> 52 Aloys Borgers Eindhoven Univ. of Tech, The Netherlands
> 53 Ger Trip Wageningen Agricultural University, The
>Netherlands
> 54 Jouke Oenema Wageningen Agricultural University, The
>Netherlands
> 55 Marian Jonker Wageningen Agricultural University, The
>Netherlands
> 56 Toin Buytels Wageningen Agricultural University, The
>Netherlands
> 57 Paul Berentsen Wageningen Agricultural University, The
>Netherlands
> 58 Marek E. WIERZBICKI Warsaw Agricultural University, Poland
> 59 Andrzej Kluza Warsaw Agricultural University, Poland
> 60 Mark WILSON Education, University of California, Berkeley, USA
> 61 Tom Gumpel The Hebrew University of Jerusalem, Israel
>62 Costas Theodoridis Thessaloniki, Macedonia, Hellas
>63 Ryan Ramsdell Fort Dodge Senior High, Iowa
>
>
> Dear Colleagues,
>
> This is a chain letter to urge the french
> government to stop nuclear tests.
> If you agree with us, please add your name to the list above,
> and send copies to your friends.
> We will add up the lists that had come back to us, and send it
> to the French Government.
>
> If you happen to be the hundredth, two hundredth, three hundredth,
> and so on, on the list, please send a copy of the mail back to the
> addresses below, so that we can keep track of this project. If
> you have any comment please send mails to us. And also, if you
> are multi-lingual and have friends who may not understand
> English, please translate this message and add it to the end of
> the mail.
> Thank you very much.
>
> * Best regards, Andrzej Kluza*
>
>
> ******* addresses of the organizers
> shimizu@femto.phys.s.u-tokyo.ac.jp
> keshi@uticeaix1.icepp.s.u-tokyo.ac.jp <- please use this adress
> *******
>
>BBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBB
>BBBBBBBB BBBBBBBBB MACEDONIA IS GREECE
>BBBBBBBB BBBBBBBBB FOR OVER 3.000 YEARS
>B B
>B B H MAKEDONIA EINAI ELLADA
>BBBBBBBB BBBBBBBBB
>BBBBBBBB BBBBBBBBB
>BBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBB macedon@athena.compulink.gr
>
>

sent from dodgenet.com


------------------------------

From: LummoxJR@AOL.COM
Date: Tue, 19 Sep 1995 22:44:08 -0400
Subject: Re: Hacking obscure settings in the EXE

n9335027@cc.wwu.edu writes:

>I once saw posted to Usenet what offsets in doom.exe to edit to allow
>useful things and I was wondering if anyone knew how to do these:
>
>make cheatcodes work in Nightmare skill level
>make Invulnerabilities and Blur Spheres regenerate in Deathmatch 2.0
>
>The post may have also said how to enable cheatcodes in multiplayer mode,
>but I'm not sure.

This is indeed a question. Those are probably the only misc. codes that
weren't looked for to be put into DHE 3.0; I don't think anyone thought about
it. But then again, I don't do much with multiplayer, DeathMatch, or
Nightmare level.
It seems logical, though, that if you can find the codes for one EXE version,
they will work in another if offset by a certain amount. I have the
conversion offsets between four different versions, but things may change if
Greg Lewis releases a new version of DHE to work with some odd version of
Doom II. (This is not to say that the codes are guaranteed to work if
translated to another version, but they might.)
If you do find out those offsets, let the world know about it.

Lummox JR
the code pointer guy

------------------------------

From: sheaslip@panix.com (Stephen Heaslip)
Date: Tue, 19 Sep 1995 22:42:28 -0400
Subject: Re: (Fwd) STOP NUCLEAR TESTS

>
>STOP NUCLEAR TESTS
>
>Letter from (forwarded):
>
> 1 SHIMIZU Seishi Physics, University of Tokyo, Japan
> 2 Yuichi Nishihara Physics, University of Tokyo, Japan
> 3 Hirohisa TANIGUCHI Physics, University of Tokyo, Japan
> 4 Takashi Tomoeda Physics, University of Tokyo, Japan
> 5 Tomoki KOBAYASHI Physics, University of Tokyo, Japan
> 6 Munehito ARAI Physics, University of Tokyo, Japan
> 7 Akira Okazaki Physics, University of Tokyo, Japan
> 8 Atsushi Matsumura Physics, Tohoku University, Japan
> 9 Kouta Yamamoto Chemistry, Tohoku University, Japan
> 10 Yasushi UJIOKA Degremont S.A., France
> 11 Toru Hara Universite de Paris Sud, France
> 12 Rene Bakker CEA - Sacley, France
> 13 David Garzella Universite de Paris Sud, France
> 14 Henk Blok Vrije Universiteit/NIKHEF, Amsterdam
> 15 Igor Passchier NIKHEF, Amsterdam
> 16 Ard van Sighem NIKHEF, Amsterdam
> 17 Johan Noordhoek KOL Leiden
> 18 C.M.C.M. van WoerkensKamerlingh Onnes Laboratory, Leiden
> 19 Annemarie Borst Vrije Universiteit Amsterdam
> 20 Gijs Nelemans Universiteit Utrecht
> 21 Susanne Buiter Universiteit Utrecht
> 22 Yvo Kok Paleomagnetic Lab., Utrecht
> 23 Thom Pick Paleomagnetic Lab., Utrecht University
> 24 Dagmar Olbertz Universiteit Utrecht
> 25 Eleonore Stutzmann Institut de Physique du Globe de Paris, France
> 26 Nicole Girardin Institut de Physique du Globe de Paris,
>France
> 27 Francois Girardin Ecole Nat. Sup. des Telecommunications,
>France
> 28 J.-P. Chaboureau Lab. Meteorologie Dynamique,France
> 29 F. CHERUY Lab. Meteorologie Dynamique, France
> 30 Herve Grenier Universite Louvain-la-Neuve, Begium
> 31 Olivier Lai Observatoire de Paris (Meudon), France
> 32 Christophe Dumas Institute For Astronomy (USA) + Obs de Paris
> (France) 33 Alan Harris Jet Propulsion Laboratory (USA)
> 34 Gerrit Verschuur Rhodes College, Memphis, TN, USA
> 35 Dap Hartmann Center for Astrophysics, Cambridge, MA, USA
> 36 Frank van den Bosch Leiden Observatory, Leiden, The Netherlands
> 37 Anthony Brown Leiden Observatory, Leiden, The Netherlands
> 38 Paulien Meijer Graduate School of Education, Leiden,
>The Netherlands
> 39 Wout Knol Centre Study Educ. & Instr., Leiden, The
>Netherlands
> 40 Ton Klein Centre Study Educ. & Instr., Leiden,
>The Netherlands
> 41 Harriet Vermeer Centre Study Educ. & Instr., Leiden, The
>Netherlands
> 42 Evelien Stoutjesdijk Developmental Ps., Leiden University, The
>Netherlands
> 43 Jeannet Kramer Soc. psychiatr., Univ. Groningen, The
>Netherlands
> 44 Tineke Oldehinkel Soc. psychiatry, RUG, The Netherlands
> 45 Catja Warmelink Groningen Centre for Gerontology
> 46 Peter van der Ende GCG, The Netherlands
> 47 Hans Gerritsen ARGO/NCG, The Netherlands
> 48 Harmen Oppewal Eindhoven Univ. of Tech, The Netherlands
> 49 Theo Arentze Eindhoven Univ. of Tech, The Netherlands
> 50 Eric Molin Eindhoven Univ. of Tech, The Netherlands
> 51 Peter van der Waerden Eindhoven Univ. of Tech, The Netherlands
> 52 Aloys Borgers Eindhoven Univ. of Tech, The Netherlands
> 53 Ger Trip Wageningen Agricultural University, The
>Netherlands
> 54 Jouke Oenema Wageningen Agricultural University, The
>Netherlands
> 55 Marian Jonker Wageningen Agricultural University, The
>Netherlands
> 56 Toin Buytels Wageningen Agricultural University, The
>Netherlands
> 57 Paul Berentsen Wageningen Agricultural University, The
>Netherlands
> 58 Marek E. WIERZBICKI Warsaw Agricultural University, Poland
> 59 Andrzej Kluza Warsaw Agricultural University, Poland
> 60 Mark WILSON Education, University of California, Berkeley, USA
> 61 Tom Gumpel The Hebrew University of Jerusalem, Israel
>62 Costas Theodoridis Thessaloniki, Macedonia, Hellas
>
>
> Dear Colleagues,
>
> This is a chain letter to urge the french
> government to stop nuclear tests.
> If you agree with us, please add your name to the list above,
> and send copies to your friends.
> We will add up the lists that had come back to us, and send it
> to the French Government.
>
> If you happen to be the hundredth, two hundredth, three hundredth,
> and so on, on the list, please send a copy of the mail back to the
> addresses below, so that we can keep track of this project. If
> you have any comment please send mails to us. And also, if you
> are multi-lingual and have friends who may not understand
> English, please translate this message and add it to the end of
> the mail.
> Thank you very much.
>
> * Best regards, Andrzej Kluza*
>
>
> ******* addresses of the organizers
> shimizu@femto.phys.s.u-tokyo.ac.jp
> keshi@uticeaix1.icepp.s.u-tokyo.ac.jp <- please use this adress
> *******
>
>BBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBB
>BBBBBBBB BBBBBBBBB MACEDONIA IS GREECE
>BBBBBBBB BBBBBBBBB FOR OVER 3.000 YEARS
>B B
>B B H MAKEDONIA EINAI ELLADA
>BBBBBBBB BBBBBBBBB
>BBBBBBBB BBBBBBBBB
>BBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBB macedon@athena.compulink.gr
>
>
- --
blue
(Steve Heaslip--sheaslip@panix.com)

This sig is Netscape enhanced!
(Blink, blink, blink...)


------------------------------

From: rhofmann <rhofmann@crl.com>
Date: Tue, 19 Sep 1995 21:50:05 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: RFD: rec.games.computer.quake.{announce,misc,editing}

1st REQUEST FOR DISCUSSION (RFD)
rec.games.computer.quake.*

[ Note: this is a Request For Discussion, not a Call For Votes. Do not
send your votes now. Instead, post your comments about this proposal
in news.groups. Please read the whole RFD before posting a followup.
]

Group Names: rec.games.computer.quake.{announce,editing,misc}
Status: 1 Moderated (announce), 2 Unmoderated
Summary: Discussion of the game QUAKE, its sequels and add-ons.
Replaces alt.games.quake.
Proposed By: Raphael Quinet
RFD Posted By: Kyle R. Hofmann
With Help From: The 57 members of the quake-proposal mailing list.
Posting Date: Sep 14 1995
Posted To: news.announce.newgroups comp.sys.sgi.misc
news.groups comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action
alt.games.doom comp.sys.mac.games.action
alt.games.quake rec.games.computer.doom.editing
comp.os.linux.misc rec.games.computer.doom.misc
comp.os.os2.games rec.games.computer.doom.playing
comp.sys.next.misc
Copy Posted To: quake-servers@ftp.idsoftware.com
doom-editing@nvg.unit.no
dooml@doomgate.cs.buffalo.edu

Newsgroup lines:
rec.games.computer.quake.announce Info/FAQ/announcements about Quake (moderated)
rec.games.computer.quake.editing Editing and hacking Quake-related files
rec.games.computer.quake.misc General discussion about Quake


PURPOSE
=======

The rec.games.computer.quake hierarchy is for discussing various topics
relating to the computer game Quake, written by id Software (the makers
of Doom) and its sequels and user-written add-ons. Quake is a highly
customizable 3D first-person action/adventure game scheduled for
release in December 1995. The servers and clients will be available on
many different types of computers and platforms, as Doom was.


RATIONALE
=========

Although the game has not been released yet, it is expected to be very
successful, given the amount of discussion already present on several
newsgroups and mailing lists. The alt.games.quake newsgroup alone
gets an average of more than 1300 messages per month and has received
more than 5000 messages since its creation. Most of the Doom-related
or action games newsgroups and mailing lists get a large number of
messages about Quake.

The Usenet readership statistics for alt.games.quake are included
below. They show that, despite the low propagation of the group, it is
already getting a lot of traffic. The replacement of alt.games.quake
by new groups in the rec hierarchy would mean that more Quake players
will be able to take part in the discussion (for comparison purposes,
the average propagation of the rec.games.computer.doom.* newsgroups is
around 51%).

Estimated total number of people who read the group, worldwide.
| Actual number of readers in sampled population
| | Propagation: how many sites receive this group at all
| | | Recent traffic (messages per month)
| | | | Recent traffic (megabytes per month)
| | | | | Crossposting percentage
| | | | | | Cost ratio: $US/month/rdr
| | | | | | | Share: % of newsrders
| | | | | | | | who read this group.
Month Rank V V V V V V V V
jul95 2506 4900 102 29% 1331 2.4 6% 0.13 0.2% alt.games.quake
may95 2792 9000 91 28% 977 1.7 6% 0.05 0.2% alt.games.quake
mar95 2547 7300 112 25% 507 0.8 5% 0.03 0.2% alt.games.quake
jan95 3095 2600 68 16% 309 0.6 8% 0.05 0.1% alt.games.quake

This first Request For Discussion proposes the creation of three
newsgroups. Other newgroups such as .playing, .multiplayer or .help
will be added later and will be part of a separate proposal, which will
be posted in November when more information about Quake is available.
These first three groups are proposed now in order to have them created
by the time Quake is released, thus preventing a flood of off-topic
messages in other newsgroups.


WHY THREE GROUPS?
=================

It is likely that Quake will be a very successful game and will require
more than three newsgroups. Several other names have already been
discussed on the quake-proposal mailing list. However, it is uncommon
in Usenet to create many groups about something which doesn't exist yet
(although the game will be released by the time the groups are created).
In order to limit the risks of having people voting against the creation
of a large number of newsgroups, we chose to limit the number of groups
to three.

The three names r.g.c.q.announce, r.g.c.q.misc and r.g.c.q.editing were
selected for the following reasons:
- - A moderated group (.announce) is needed in order to avoid a great
number of redundant messages when something new is available. It will
also be useful for the people who do not want to subscribe to the
high-volume discussion groups but still want to be informed about
Quake.
- - The two most popular topics will certainly be playing and editing the
game. For comparison purposes, r.g.c.d.playing and r.g.c.d.editing
are the two Doom newsgroups that get the highest traffic.
- - It is better to have a .misc group in the new hierarchy which will
provide a forum where other topics can be discussed. Otherwise, there
would be no place to discuss things that are not directly related to
playing or editing the game, such as setup problems, FTP issues,
discussions about the game engine, etc. This is why .misc (for
gameplay issues as well as other topics) and .editing are proposed
first, instead of .playing and .editing. The playing subjects will be
discussed in .misc initially and will be moved to a more appropriate
group later (probably r.g.c.q.playing).

See the "epilogue" section below for a list of the newsgroups that will
probably be included in a separate proposal, to be posted when more
information about Quake is available.


CHARTERS
========
rec.games.computer.quake.announce Info/FAQ/announcements about Quake (moderated)

This is the only moderated group in this hierarchy. The sort of
postings likely to be approved by the moderator are general
announcements that are interesting to the broad spectrum of Quake
players. Examples of these types of articles are: anything from
id Software, FAQs and other periodical informational postings,
announcement of new levels or utilities, announcements of new
servers, reviews, etc.

The current moderator of rec.games.computer.doom.announce, Tony
Lezard, says that he would be happy to moderate this newsgroup
using the following addresses:

Submit: quake@mantis.co.uk
Contact: quake-request@mantis.co.uk (Tony Lezard)

rec.games.computer.quake.editing Editing and hacking Quake-related files

Discussion in this group covers all aspects of editing and modifying
the game. Quake will be a highly customizable game and id Software
will release an editor which will allow people to create their own
universes and change the game in many ways. Additionally, lots of
third-party editors and utilities are expected to be released (some
of them have already been developed but will not be released before
Quake is available). Topics for this group will include: editors,
editing related questions and suggestions, playability issues, design
techniques, conversions of levels or objects to other formats.

Comments or questions about configuring a server or playing
user-written levels should not be posted here - post in .misc
instead (or in .playing when this group is created).

rec.games.computer.quake.misc General discussion about Quake

This group covers all topics that are not already covered by the
other groups in this hierachy. The range of topics will be very
broad at first, but will be reduced as other groups are created.
Examples include: playing standard or user-written levels, help about
playing the game or setting up a server, FTP issues, comparisons with
other games, piracy, etc.

This newsgroup replaces alt.games.quake.


COMMON POSTING GUIDELINES FOR R.G.C.Q NEWSGROUPS
================================================

In general, cross-posting among discussion groups is strongly
discouraged. Articles posted to .announce can be cross-posted to
other relevant groups.

No binaries should be posted in these groups. When relevant, short
excerpts of source code or configuration files may be included in
an article, but binaries and code in general should be posted in a
more appropriate alt.binaries group (like alt.binaries.quake if this
group is created).


EPILOGUE
========

This RFD proposes the creation of three newsgroups. Many people would
like to see more groups about Quake; they will be included in a future
proposal for the reasons explained above. Here are some suggested names
for the other newsgroups (to be discussed later):
rec.games.computer.quake.help Questions on Quake and add-ons
rec.games.computer.quake.playing Playing Quake and add-ons
rec.games.computer.quake.multiplayer Multiplayer games and Quake servers
rec.games.computer.quake.programming New game algorithms

The group r.g.c.q.misc will be a replacement for alt.games.quake, whose
poor propagation and now-redundant status make it no longer needed.
Therefore, alt.games.quake will be removed two weeks after the creation
of r.g.c.q.misc in order to prevent the sort of confusion and
duplication of resources that is found in alt.games.doom now that the
rec.games.computer.doom hierarchy exists.

The discussion period lasts 21 days from the initial post of this RFD.
If there are no major objections to the naming or placement, then the
CFV (Call For Votes) will be issued, lasting for 22 days. Following
the vote, there is a 5 day discussion period after which newsgroups that
passed will be newgrouped by the moderator of news.announce.newgroups.

Followups to this post are directed to news.groups, which is where
further discussion will take place. Cross-posted followups are
discouraged. Please read news.groups to participate. Thank you!

- -----
Note from the poster:

Slight changes were introduced by David C Lawrence, the moderator of
news.announce.newgroups, into the actual post to Usenet. Some sections
were moved and a large section (From the statement not to vote now up to
the newsgroup lines) was removed. No changes were introduced into the
content of the document (As far as we can tell).

-Kyle R. Hofmann

------------------------------

From: S.Benner@lancaster.ac.uk (Steve Benner)
Date: Wed, 20 Sep 95 09:47:20 +0100
Subject: Re: (Fwd) STOP NUCLEAR TESTS (IMPORTANT ADMIN NOTE)

At 12:38 am 20/9/95, Costas Theodoridis wrote:
>
>
> Dear Colleagues,
>
> This is a chain letter to urge the french
> government to stop nuclear tests.

Please note that the sending of electronic chain mail is STRICTLY against
most network usage guidelines. Notice is hereby given that any persons
sending any further such chain letters to this list will be unsubscribed
IMMEDIATELY without additional warning. Recipients are also warned that if
you send the chain mail on, you may risk loosing your network access
altogether.

Thanks

- -Steve Benner
Caretaker



------------------------------

From: Alden Bates <abates@central.co.nz>
Date: Wed, 20 Sep 1995 21:28:58 +1200 (NZST)
Subject: Re: (Fwd) STOP NUCLEAR TESTS

Was it _really_ necessary to repost this twice????

BTW, has anyone started on Chirac DOOM yet? :-)

Alden Bates.

/| |~) "Actually Scully, I don't think these two are aliens..."
/===== - Fox Mulder, the X-Files/Ren and Stimpy cross over episode
/ | |_)
Alden Bates, abates@central.co.nz


------------------------------

From: Olivier <montanuy@lsun80.lannion.cnet.fr>
Date: 20 Sep 95 13:35:53+0200
Subject: Re: (Fwd) STOP NUCLEAR TESTS

- -

>Was it _really_ necessary to repost this twice????
Yes it was (I'm French, and I hate Chirac)


>BTW, has anyone started on Chirac DOOM yet? :-)
CHIRAC.WAD was completed two weeks ago, by Avery Andrews.
it's on all FTP sites by now. look for chirac.zip






------------------------------

From: dethlejd@galt.osd.mil
Date: Wed, 20 Sep 95 10:30:04 -0400
Subject: Re: (Fwd) STOP NUCLEAR TESTS

Or how'zabout:

French Doom Marine Commando storms "ICKGREENpeace" and wipes out ecco-imps?

- - Jim

------------------------------

From: SHamilton@chs.osd.wednet.edu
Date: Wed, 20 Sep 1995 07:27:35 -0500
Subject: MIDI to MUS

I've noticed when trying to convert and play MIDI's that there seems to be
different versions. The media player that came with windows can't seem to
play MIDI's converted from MUS and the midi2mus.exe can't convert the MIDI's
that came with windows.

Does anyone know of a converter or if the problem is something else?

:):):D:D, Scott Hamilton


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From: mblabg@maja.mas.malmo.se
Date: Wed, 20 Sep 1995 15:57:28 --100
Subject: deep water

Hi,

I am trying to make wads with the deep water effect. While it is working
fine from the viewpoint of the player, the other players, monsters etc. are
still walking on the surface of the water. Does anybody have an idea how to
make other things appear half under the water?

Thanks, Zozo


------------------------------

From: S.Benner@lancaster.ac.uk (Steve Benner)
Date: Wed, 20 Sep 95 17:25:46 +0100
Subject: Re: deep water

At 3:57 pm 20/9/95, mblabg@maja.mas.malmo.se wrote:

>
>I am trying to make wads with the deep water effect. While it is working
>fine from the viewpoint of the player, the other players, monsters etc. are
>still walking on the surface of the water. Does anybody have an idea how to
>make other things appear half under the water?
>

You can't. If you fool the engine into displaying the floor at the wrong
height, you can't expect things which are standing on that floor to appear
at the 'right' height!

- -Steve



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From: brian@phyast.pitt.edu (Brian K. Martin)
Date: Wed, 20 Sep 1995 14:45:42 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: MIDI to MUS

>
> I've noticed when trying to convert and play MIDI's that there seems to be
> different versions. The media player that came with windows can't seem to
> play MIDI's converted from MUS and the midi2mus.exe can't convert the MIDI's
> that came with windows.
>
> Does anyone know of a converter or if the problem is something else?
>
> :):):D:D, Scott Hamilton
>
>

Yea I had that problem also. I think it's because of windows. There
are some standards for midi, but windows isn't too flexible when
the instruments aren't exactly the same as in its general midi.
Get a copy of the cakewalk demonstration program or any other
midi player and you should have no trouble. Note though that I am
usually half full of crap, but this stuff is sorta true.

brian


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From: dnabiesz@maple.net (Rob)
Date: Wed, 20 Sep 1995 17:45:22 -0400
Subject: Re: (Fwd) STOP NUCLEAR TESTS

>
>STOP NUCLEAR TESTS
>
>Letter from (forwarded):
>
> 1 SHIMIZU Seishi Physics, University of Tokyo, Japan
> 2 Yuichi Nishihara Physics, University of Tokyo, Japan
> 3 Hirohisa TANIGUCHI Physics, University of Tokyo, Japan
> 4 Takashi Tomoeda Physics, University of Tokyo, Japan
> 5 Tomoki KOBAYASHI Physics, University of Tokyo, Japan
> 6 Munehito ARAI Physics, University of Tokyo, Japan
> 7 Akira Okazaki Physics, University of Tokyo, Japan
> 8 Atsushi Matsumura Physics, Tohoku University, Japan
> 9 Kouta Yamamoto Chemistry, Tohoku University, Japan
> 10 Yasushi UJIOKA Degremont S.A., France
> 11 Toru Hara Universite de Paris Sud, France
> 12 Rene Bakker CEA - Sacley, France
> 13 David Garzella Universite de Paris Sud, France
> 14 Henk Blok Vrije Universiteit/NIKHEF, Amsterdam
> 15 Igor Passchier NIKHEF, Amsterdam
> 16 Ard van Sighem NIKHEF, Amsterdam
> 17 Johan Noordhoek KOL Leiden
> 18 C.M.C.M. van WoerkensKamerlingh Onnes Laboratory, Leiden
> 19 Annemarie Borst Vrije Universiteit Amsterdam
> 20 Gijs Nelemans Universiteit Utrecht
> 21 Susanne Buiter Universiteit Utrecht
> 22 Yvo Kok Paleomagnetic Lab., Utrecht
> 23 Thom Pick Paleomagnetic Lab., Utrecht University
> 24 Dagmar Olbertz Universiteit Utrecht
> 25 Eleonore Stutzmann Institut de Physique du Globe de Paris, France
> 26 Nicole Girardin Institut de Physique du Globe de Paris,
>France
> 27 Francois Girardin Ecole Nat. Sup. des Telecommunications,
>France
> 28 J.-P. Chaboureau Lab. Meteorologie Dynamique,France
> 29 F. CHERUY Lab. Meteorologie Dynamique, France
> 30 Herve Grenier Universite Louvain-la-Neuve, Begium
> 31 Olivier Lai Observatoire de Paris (Meudon), France
> 32 Christophe Dumas Institute For Astronomy (USA) + Obs de Paris
> (France) 33 Alan Harris Jet Propulsion Laboratory (USA)
> 34 Gerrit Verschuur Rhodes College, Memphis, TN, USA
> 35 Dap Hartmann Center for Astrophysics, Cambridge, MA, USA
> 36 Frank van den Bosch Leiden Observatory, Leiden, The Netherlands
> 37 Anthony Brown Leiden Observatory, Leiden, The Netherlands
> 38 Paulien Meijer Graduate School of Education, Leiden,
>The Netherlands
> 39 Wout Knol Centre Study Educ. & Instr., Leiden, The
>Netherlands
> 40 Ton Klein Centre Study Educ. & Instr., Leiden,
>The Netherlands
> 41 Harriet Vermeer Centre Study Educ. & Instr., Leiden, The
>Netherlands
> 42 Evelien Stoutjesdijk Developmental Ps., Leiden University, The
>Netherlands
> 43 Jeannet Kramer Soc. psychiatr., Univ. Groningen, The
>Netherlands
> 44 Tineke Oldehinkel Soc. psychiatry, RUG, The Netherlands
> 45 Catja Warmelink Groningen Centre for Gerontology
> 46 Peter van der Ende GCG, The Netherlands
> 47 Hans Gerritsen ARGO/NCG, The Netherlands
> 48 Harmen Oppewal Eindhoven Univ. of Tech, The Netherlands
> 49 Theo Arentze Eindhoven Univ. of Tech, The Netherlands
> 50 Eric Molin Eindhoven Univ. of Tech, The Netherlands
> 51 Peter van der Waerden Eindhoven Univ. of Tech, The Netherlands
> 52 Aloys Borgers Eindhoven Univ. of Tech, The Netherlands
> 53 Ger Trip Wageningen Agricultural University, The
>Netherlands
> 54 Jouke Oenema Wageningen Agricultural University, The
>Netherlands
> 55 Marian Jonker Wageningen Agricultural University, The
>Netherlands
> 56 Toin Buytels Wageningen Agricultural University, The
>Netherlands
> 57 Paul Berentsen Wageningen Agricultural University, The
>Netherlands
> 58 Marek E. WIERZBICKI Warsaw Agricultural University, Poland
> 59 Andrzej Kluza Warsaw Agricultural University, Poland
60 Mark WILSON Education, University of California, Berkeley, USA
61 Tom Gumpel The Hebrew University of Jerusalem, Israel
62 Costas Theodoridis Thessaloniki, Macedonia, Hellas
63 Vorticon Nabieszko University of Toronto - SLOWPOKE division

Dear Colleagues,

This is a chain letter to urge the french
government to stop nuclear tests.
If you agree with us, please add your name to the list above,
and send copies to your friends.
We will add up the lists that had come back to us, and send it
to the French Government.

If you happen to be the hundredth, two hundredth, three hundredth,
and so on, on the list, please send a copy of the mail back to the
addresses below, so that we can keep track of this project. If
you have any comment please send mails to us. And also, if you
are multi-lingual and have friends who may not understand
English, please translate this message and add it to the end of
the mail.
Thank you very much.

* Best regards, Andrzej Kluza*


******* addresses of the organizers
shimizu@femto.phys.s.u-tokyo.ac.jp
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