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Doom Editing Digest Vol. 01 Nr. 431

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From:      owner-doom-editing-digest 
To: doom-editing-digest@nvg.unit.no
Subject: doom-editing-digest V1 #431
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doom-editing-digest Tuesday, 3 October 1995 Volume 01 : Number 431

Re: Tracers
Tracers
Re: Tracers
Re: Tracers
Re: Capture-The-Flag Implemented

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From: LummoxJR@AOL.COM
Date: Sun, 1 Oct 1995 21:41:01 -0400
Subject: Re: Tracers

MGrocki@aol.com writes:

>Concerning tracers for guns like the chaingun, I wouldn't think think it's
>possible. The DOOM engine doesn't calculate the travel of the bullets (i.e.
>no matter how far you are from a wall, the bullets will hit it
>instantaneously.) It just tests for an intersection with a wall. Use IDDT
>on the map twice to notice the difference. Shooting plasma or rockets, you
>see the green triangle traveling. Shooting bullets or pellets just makes
the
>triangles appear on the wall that they hit.

You're right. It's not possible, without using a modified projectile like the
plasma bullet, rocket, or BFG shot.
As far as green map triangles go, they can be eliminated by setting the total
invisibility bit (3, I think) in DeHackEd; but that makes the graphics
invisible, and thus makes tracer bullets a moot point.

Greg's idea of modified projectiles has merit, though. But I'd change it from
shooting 4 bullets and a projectile to shooting nothing but modified
projectiles. To do it, though, you'd need to hijack two of them (rockets,
plasma, BFG), and make them alike, setting one (the one used 4 times) to be
invisible. If you did that, you'd probably want to change some of the weapons
to use non-hijacked projectiles.

Lummox JR
always up for a new idea

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From: Greg Lewis <gregl@umich.edu>
Date: Sun, 1 Oct 1995 22:24:09 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Tracers

> Concerning tracers for guns like the chaingun, I wouldn't think think it's
> possible. The DOOM engine doesn't calculate the travel of the bullets (i.e.
> no matter how far you are from a wall, the bullets will hit it
> instantaneously.)

The chaingun by itself cannot produce tracers. To get the desired
effect you would need to splice together both chaingun and plasma bullets
in the same weapon. The chaingun would fire bullets as normal, and the
plasma gun would handle the tracer action.

Greg

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From: Pandion-Knight <s337239@student.uq.edu.au>
Date: Mon, 2 Oct 1995 12:14:09 +1000 (GMT+1000)
Subject: Re: Tracers

On Sun, 1 Oct 1995 MGrocki@AOL.COM wrote:

> In a message dated 95-09-30 02:10:47 EDT, you write:
>
> >Have you played Aliens-TC in deathmatch? The smartgun is tracer.
> >(But it's a bit slow to be laser-like)
>
> The smartgun in Aliens-TC is really the plasma gun. All the author did was
> change the shot graphics.
>
> Concerning tracers for guns like the chaingun, I wouldn't think think it's
> possible. The DOOM engine doesn't calculate the travel of the bullets (i.e.
> no matter how far you are from a wall, the bullets will hit it
> instantaneously.) It just tests for an intersection with a wall. Use IDDT
> on the map twice to notice the difference. Shooting plasma or rockets, you
> see the green triangle traveling. Shooting bullets or pellets just makes the
> triangles appear on the wall that they hit.
>
> MGrocki
>
I realise that! my point was to mix up the code pointers to make the
chaingun (whatever) shoot like the plasma and thus spit tracers like the
gun in aliens tc. Then you'd have to edit the plasma bullet to look like
tracer fire and set the speed extremely high. Maybe if you rig the
graphics right the tracer can look like its going right THROUGH a player :)

anyways.


Christopher Voutsis
Email: s337239@student.uq.edu.au
IRC: Pandion (after 9pm most nights :)


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From: Paul Thompson <shinobi@gold.interlog.com>
Date: Mon, 2 Oct 1995 08:59:42 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: Tracers

> You're right. It's not possible, without using a modified projectile like the
> plasma bullet, rocket, or BFG shot.

[snip]

> Greg's idea of modified projectiles has merit, though. But I'd change it from
> shooting 4 bullets and a projectile to shooting nothing but modified
> projectiles. To do it, though, you'd need to hijack two of them (rockets,
> plasma, BFG), and make them alike, setting one (the one used 4 times) to be
> invisible. If you did that, you'd probably want to change some of the weapons
> to use non-hijacked projectiles.

I've been attempting to do make the pistol and chaingun fire rocket
projectiles, but to no avail. Has anyone managed to do this
successfully? I'd love to hear how it was done!

Paul


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From: thekid@ornews.intel.com (Brian Kidby)
Date: Mon, 2 Oct 1995 08:42:25 -0800 (PDT)
Subject: Re: Capture-The-Flag Implemented

>
> Kewl, sounds great... can i have a look at it...
>

Sure. Save this message to a text-file and uudecode it. Keep in mind
that this is a very simple example, designed to show nothing more than
that the theme CAN be implemented in Doom-engine games.

Cheers,

Brian

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