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Doom Editing Digest Vol. 01 Nr. 324
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doom-editing-digest Saturday, 24 June 1995 Volume 01 : Number 324
Re: DM Starting points [was re: DOOM PACKETS ...]
Re: IDDT in Network Games
Re: A question about DOOM maps
Re: DM Starting points [was re: DOOM PACKETS ...]
Re: IDDT in Network Games
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From: Denis.Moeller@kiel.netsurf.de (Denis)
Date: Fri, 23 Jun 95 21:25 GMT
Subject: Re: DM Starting points [was re: DOOM PACKETS ...]
Hi!
>>As a test, I tried standing on the player two start to see what would
>>happen when player two died. He reappeared on a _differant_ start.
>This must work just like in the teleports.
>If there are more than one teleport landings in the sector,
>and the first is blocked, the player and monsters will
>respawn at the second teleport landing.
No, it seems to be different, because Deathmatch-starts are not sector
specific. There is no need for a tag-reference or something. We just
tried some ideas here and I was kinda surprised:
I put 4 DM-starts in the level and on three of them a Zombieman. Then
we tried to play it with 2 player deathmatch. I started in the first one
and my brother was 'born' in one of the others. He couldn't move, just
turn around etc. BUT the Zombieman was running around shooting at him...!
No fragging. A shot, the Zombieman died quickly :) and my brother was 'free'.
Strange ugh? Why didn't he splatter the bad guy?
However, I never saw such a thing again while IN the game.
And we NEVER fragged ourselfs with respawning in Deathmatch.
Sadly (?), it is impossible to create a scene where you HAVE to frag a player.
4 DM-starts are required and 4 players are maximum. This 'would' be possible
if you could do 3 starting points, but Doom (2) breaks if you try that.
cya
Denis
[] Denis Moeller, author of NWT v1.3 and TiC's WAD Reviews. []
[] Just play our Doom (2) Add-Ons: Sudtic, Teutic, Obtic. Thanks. []
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From: Denis.Moeller@kiel.netsurf.de (Denis)
Date: Fri, 23 Jun 95 21:24 GMT
Subject: Re: IDDT in Network Games
>> WHY did you put a network cheat code in Doom?
>Actually, I think this was a bug. That's why it was removed.
>It's not a very useful bug either. If you record demos of the
>Deathmatches, it should be obvious if the other person used it.
If we are speaking about bugs - is it okay that one sector-type will
kill you even in IDDQD-God-Mode? It's real, I never noticed that before
and was very surprised! ;)
cya
Denis
[] Denis Moeller, author of NWT v1.3 and TiC's WAD Reviews. []
[] Just play our Doom (2) Add-Ons: Sudtic, Teutic, Obtic. Thanks. []
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From: helmberg@li01.ad.or.at (Florian Helmberger)
Date: Sat, 24 Jun 1995 00:09:26 +0200
Subject: Re: A question about DOOM maps
At 21:14 22.06.1995 -0700, d.greer@ix.netcom.com (Jon Greer) wrote:
>In uac_dead.wad, a map based on E1M8, when the last baron dies the
>sector holding the cybordemon is triggered. I thought tag 666 did
>this. It must be possible. I regret I dont know exactly how:(
> Doug Greer
That's correct, but this also workes only in DOOM/E1M8. The same
for the triggers in DOOM2/MAP07 - just make a tiny pwad to check
this out! If you want to do such thing you must make your level
E1M8 (in DOOM) or MAP07 (in DOOM2).
- -Florian
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From: Greg Lewis <gregl@umich.edu>
Date: Fri, 23 Jun 1995 18:33:50 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: DM Starting points [was re: DOOM PACKETS ...]
> And we NEVER fragged ourselfs with respawning in Deathmatch.
> Sadly (?), it is impossible to create a scene where you HAVE to frag a player.
> 4 DM-starts are required and 4 players are maximum. This 'would' be possible
> if you could do 3 starting points, but Doom (2) breaks if you try that.
It is very possible to create such a scene. Put four DM start spots
right next to each other in a square, like this:
XX
XX
As close as possible without having them overlap. Then start a normal
deathmatch game. Have one player stand right in the middle of all four
start spots, so that he overlaps them all. Then have another player
commit suicide... BAM. The player is now dead, and needs to respawn,
while Player 1 is standing on all 4 spots simultaneously. What happens?
Greg
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From: l-sieben@MEMPHIS.EDU (ulasieben)
Date: Fri, 23 Jun 1995 18:28:19 -0500
Subject: Re: IDDT in Network Games
At 09:24 PM 6/23/95, doom-editing@nvg.unit.no wrote:
>If we are speaking about bugs - is it okay that one sector-type will
>kill you even in IDDQD-God-Mode? It's real, I never noticed that before
>and was very surprised! ;)
They probably did this so you would HAVE to exit E1M8. If you go in there
and use IDBEHOLDV, Invuln will be yours, and you don't die. This was
inntentional I assume.
-- Evil Genius (Jimmy Sieben)
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