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doom-editing-digest Wednesday, 22 February 1995 Volume 01 : Number 174
A name for our WAD
Re: id-ea
RCPT: Re: node generator comparison
Re: id-ea
Re: id-ea
Re: id-ea
Re: id-ea
Re: The Wad - Here we go!
"The Wad" Name Suggestion
Re: id-ea
RCPT: Re: id-ea
RCPT: Re: node generator comparison
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From: setc@together.net (Ross Carlson)
Date: Tue, 21 Feb 1995 18:35:55 -0500
Subject: A name for our WAD
I don't know about the rest of you, but I really think we need a name for
ths thing!
Everyone should send me an e-mail with a proposed name for the project.
This will not be the final name, we will decide on that when the theme and
everything becomes defined. I will take suggestions for a week (maybe I
should take them for two weeks?). When that's done, I will post a meessage
listing the names, and you can all then send me your vote. Does this sound
good?
E-mail me at setc@together.net
BTW - I'm going to start the web page tonight. There should be something
there tomorrow (Wednesday, EST), however incomplete and embarrassing it may be!
Here is a list of items that I plan to include on the web page:
- - list of contributors broken down be area of interest - mailto links for
each - note that, at this time, Tom is still collecting names for
contributors, we will let everyone know when you can send contribution
requests to me instead, to be included in the page.
- - list of proposed themes, mailto links for person who proposed it
- - General comments - which of doom one or two, heretic etc.
- - archives of messages on topic?
- - links to FTP areas for related files, graphics, sounds, lvels
utils, etc..
- - proposed names
- - deadlines for theme submission, name submission, etc.
- - vote results on submitted themes, names
- - links to other Doom related WWW pages
- - Misc. section
Any suggestions for the content of my page are greatly appreciated.
The URL for the page will be:
http://together.net/~setc/public/thewad.html
My home page will be at:
http://together.net/~setc/index.html
On that topic, does anyone know if it is illegal for me to use graphics cut
out of Doom screen shots on my web pages? Since American McGee is in on
this, maybe it's OK. I will e-mail id about this (what are the chances
he'll respond?) Please let me know! Until I find out for sure, I won't use
any graphics.
Talk to you all soon!
- -Ross Carlson
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From: Enigma <hsimpson@unixg.ubc.ca>
Date: Tue, 21 Feb 1995 15:36:45 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Re: id-ea
> I think the IWAD project should be designed for Heretic since it provides
> more possibilities for DM play (eg - items, flight, powered-up weapons,
> look-up/down, etc.) IMO. What does everyone else think?
DOOM is certainly the engine we want to use for this. Heretic just
doesn't have the same atmosphere. Remember, this is supposed to be a
continuation of the original theme. Plus, don't you think DOOM deserves it?
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From: "Aaron J. Edwards" <aedwards@clark.net>
Date: Mon, 20 Feb 1995 19:13:20 +0500
Subject: RCPT: Re: node generator comparison
Confirmation of reading: your message -
Date: 21 Feb 95 10:46
To: doom-editing@nvg.unit.no
Subject: Re: node generator comparison
Was read at 19:13, 20 Feb 95.
- ---
Aaron J. Edwards
aedwards@clark.net
(703)491-5802 (H)
These opinions are my own and mine and mine, nobody elses!! Got it?!
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From: David Damerell <djsd100@hermes.cam.ac.uk>
Date: Tue, 21 Feb 1995 23:45:30 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: Re: id-ea
On Tue, 21 Feb 1995, Ian Springer wrote:
> if you can't afford Doom2, I guess that leaves you out in the cold..."the
> WAD" must definitely be designed for Doom2 simply because of the improved
> engine, the super-shotgun, and the 32-map design...so start saving up....
There is no improved engine. 27 levels ain't so different from 32, and
the episode screens are rather nice. So it's one weapon. I'm inclined to
say it should be for DooM I, a game many more people on the Internet have.
David Damerell, GCV Sauricon. djsd100@hermes.cam.ac.uk Trinity, Cambridge
WOODHAL2.WAD ftpable. CUWoCS President. METLMAZE.WAD sometime soonish.
|___| Loneliness pours over you: Emptiness can pull you through. |___|
| | | Your mother's eyes, from your eyes, cry to me... Queen, '39. | | |
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From: Matthew Miller <rmiller@infinet.com>
Date: Tue, 21 Feb 1995 18:59:47 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: id-ea
> >>>Hi You all,
> >>> I'd like to propose the idea of a Doom-editing list IWAD, ive a bunch 0
> >>>of levels that work best with human style enemies, based on the idea of a
> >>>small town with random(ish) insertions of enemies.
> >>> If a bunch of us got together and pooled our skills we could build a
> >>>CLASSIC!
> >>> 32 new levels.
> >>> 20 new enemies (make the beasts thinner and faster and smarter?)
> >>> all new graphics
> >>> a new strategic/tactical theme
> >>>Do i hear a seconder, im willing to take the work to edit this, and be
> >>>the group coordinator.
> >>>-billy
Tell ya what. I've got a pretty large collection of sound effects and
musics--would you like me to send you some? (Let's decide on the format
I can send them in as soon as we decide on the theme...I throw my `vote'
in for the mutated-humans theme, myself.)
Matthew Miller -- rmiller@infinet.com
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From: <jordanf@globalone.net>
Date: Tue, 21 Feb 1995 19:09:31 -30000
Subject: Re: id-ea
On Tue, 21 Feb 1995, Ian Springer wrote:
> > On Tue, 21 Feb 1995, Shriker wrote:
> >
> > > On Tue, 21 Feb 95 1:05:40 EST Ian Springer said:
> > > >
> > >
> > > <<snip>>
> > >
> > > >I think the IWAD project should be designed for Heretic since it provides
> > > >more possibilities for DM play (eg - items, flight, powered-up weapons,
> > > >look-up/down, etc.) IMO. What does everyone else think?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >------------------< Ian Springer (Rutgers College '98) >---------------------
> > > > ips@eden.rutgers.edu (general) ips@remus.rutgers.edu (computer science)
> > > > ips@usacs.rutgers.edu (USACS) ips@gandalf.rutgers.edu (honors program)
> > > >---------------------< http://remus.rutgers.edu/~ips >-----------------------
> > >
> >
> > >From initial playing of Heretic for Deathmatch, it doesn't seem as good
> > as Doom. So designing levels for that might be a waste of time. Of course
> > this is just my opinion, maybe i've just got so used to playing Doom in
> > DM that nothing else seems that good, or maybe because the Heretic levels
> > just aren't that good for DM play and need some specifically designed
> > levels......
> >
> > Although the ability to fly in Heretic is COOL for DM.
> >
>
> the only good DM level that comes with Heretic is E1M1, but there are a few
> fun PWAD's out...it has more potential than Doom, and technically it could be
> made to look just like Doom.
>
>
> ------------------< Ian Springer (Rutgers College '98) >---------------------
> ips@eden.rutgers.edu (general) ips@remus.rutgers.edu (computer science)
> ips@usacs.rutgers.edu (USACS) ips@gandalf.rutgers.edu (honors program)
> ---------------------< http://remus.rutgers.edu/~ips >-----------------------
Yeah, but in my opinion, you can't get the same feeling in Heretic that
you do in DOOM(2) while playing deathmatch. There's an unprecedented
feeling of joy and a rush of testosterone when you blow someone away with
a double barreled shotgun, that you simply can't get with some fantasy
weapon. Also, the textures in Heretic are extremely weak, and the
characters blend into the walls.
Jordan Feinman System Operator
Global One, Inc. (518) 452-1465 v
jordanf@globalone.net (518) 452-1234 d
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From: Anthony Spataro <ads@netcom.com>
Date: Tue, 21 Feb 1995 16:20:20 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Re: id-ea
On Tue, 21 Feb 1995, Enigma wrote:
> > I think the IWAD project should be designed for Heretic since it provides
> > more possibilities for DM play (eg - items, flight, powered-up weapons,
> > look-up/down, etc.) IMO. What does everyone else think?
>
> DOOM is certainly the engine we want to use for this. Heretic just
> doesn't have the same atmosphere. Remember, this is supposed to be a
> continuation of the original theme. Plus, don't you think DOOM deserves it?
>
Remember here that we're (well, I'm not in the project, but nevertheless)
we're talking a whole new game here. We can't use Doom textures anyway,
since id's got the copyright on 'em, so if we're re-drawing all the
walls, monsters, objects, fonts, sprites etc, and doing new music and
sound, why not use the extended engine of Heretic. ONly problems I can
see are the fact that not everybody has registered Htic (I know I
haven't) and the fact that we don't have as much experience with the engine.
/ads@netcom.com
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and last month in advance.
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From: Casey Robinson <ogiswise@rahul.net>
Date: Tue, 21 Feb 1995 16:28:51 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Re: The Wad - Here we go!
On Mon, 20 Feb 1995 TWM2029@aol.com wrote:
>
> MAIL DELETED BECAUSE OF LACK OF DISK SPACE
>
>
Ack. Haven't i seen this before?
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From: hsimpson@unixg.ubc.ca (Enigma)
Date: Tue, 21 Feb 1995 16:37:42 -0800
Subject: "The Wad" Name Suggestion
"Trials and Tribulations"
"The Project"
"Unity"
"Destination: Confidential"
"The Wad"
There they are, my suggestions. I'll mail more when I think of more.
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enigma <hsimpson@unixg.ubc.ca>
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From: "Chris Campbell (ME)" <ccampbel@suntan.eng.usf.edu>
Date: Tue, 21 Feb 1995 19:52:37 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: id-ea
On 21 Feb 1995 jdh15@po.cwru.edu wrote:
> A while ago I started to write DFH: DOOM for Heretic, which was a
> HHE patch and a PWAD with lotsa sprites to do exactly what you
> suggested. I gave up, though, because a lot of the monsters can't
> be duplicated. There is nothing in Heretic that duplicates an
> Archvile's attack or the Revenant's heat-seeking missiles. (I know
> YOU have heat seekers, but no monster does) For that matter, there
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Is this true? I know many a time when playing Heretic, those damn yellow
mummy looking guys shoot flamming skulls at me that chase me all around
the board. Around corners, down hallways, you name it.
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From: "Kram Llens" <MSNELL@kitsune.art.rmit.edu.au>
Date: Wed, 22 Feb 1995 12:00:35 EST-10
Subject: RCPT: Re: id-ea
Confirmation of reading: your message -
Date: 21 Feb 95 9:30
To: doom-editing@nvg.unit.no
Subject: Re: id-ea
Was read at 12:00, 22 Feb 95.
Kram_Llens@rmit.edu.au RMIT, Melbourne, Australia
Ph (03) 660 5378 Fax (03) 660 5342
"I bought some dehydrated water, but I don't
know what to add to it" -Steven Wright
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From: "Kram Llens" <MSNELL@kitsune.art.rmit.edu.au>
Date: Wed, 22 Feb 1995 12:01:03 EST-10
Subject: RCPT: Re: node generator comparison
Confirmation of reading: your message -
Date: 21 Feb 95 10:46
To: doom-editing@nvg.unit.no
Subject: Re: node generator comparison
Was read at 12:01, 22 Feb 95.
Kram_Llens@rmit.edu.au RMIT, Melbourne, Australia
Ph (03) 660 5378 Fax (03) 660 5342
"I bought some dehydrated water, but I don't
know what to add to it" -Steven Wright
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