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doom-editing-digest Wednesday, 23 November 1994 Volume 01 : Number 063
Re: Policy at ORST
Announce: DMADDS 1.1 dos
Re: DEU 5.3
Re: DEU 5.3
Re: DEU 5.3
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From: rrward@netcom.com (Richard Ward)
Date: Mon, 21 Nov 1994 23:25:31 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Re: Policy at ORST
> >>I suppose you could try the incoming of some of the mirrors. I've had
> >>success at wup.edu d'ling from the incoming directory (it's not write-only).
> >>Really though, what's the point of having a writeonly directory anyhow?
> >
>
> incoming is write-only in an attempt to prevent deletions from outside: if
> you can't read what's there, you won't know what to delete, will you?
> incoming is copied periodically to NEWSTUFF (I don't know how often) but
> the whole thing is in a state of flux anyway: wait til the site stabilises
> somewhere (Walnut Creek, words has it) - it'll probably be better
> maintained then. Patience, guys, patience.
> -Steve
Actually, it is partially my fault. Jim Pitts was originally set up infant2
so that no one could download anything at all. He was really pissed off
because someone kept trying to upload DOOM ][. I suggested that most BBS's
(shame) that I used to frequent had incoming directories that were not
accessable (sp?) to the outside except for incoming files and that this might
slow down people trying to upload illeagl stuff if they new it would be
inspected before it was made available. He liked the idea and used it. Sorry.
Richard Ward
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From: Bernd Kreimeier (++49-228-550-247) <Bernd.Kreimeier@nero.uni-bonn.de>
Date: Tue, 22 Nov 1994 15:40:49 +0100
Subject: Announce: DMADDS 1.1 dos
---- Announcing: DMADDS 1.1 for DOOM 1.2/1.666/][ ----
DMADDS11.ZIP is uploaded at ftp.orst.edu:/pub/doom/incoming,
and will hopefully appear in NEWSTUFF soon.
This is the DMADDS 1.1 dos package for PWAD development.
If you only want to replace DMADDS 1.0beta, i.e. if you
want to use 1.2 PWADs for 1.666 or ][, use the binary only
DMADD11B.ZIP package. No guarantee. I'd like to recommend
releasing an updated version of the sprite PWADs.
The files dmadds11.zip and dmadd11b.zip should replace
the ftp.orst.edu:/pub/doom/wad_edit/misc/dmadds1b.zip
files.
DMADDS 1.1 as well as the empty PWAD files provided should
work with any registered IWAD now. Of course, concerning the
amount or "official patches" around, there is no way to be
sure. I have no US version of the ][ IWAD, as the secret
levels are missing in the german version.
There might be lots of warnings, if you are copying 1.2
PWADs into ][ PWADs, but as long as the missing sprites aren't
used, it will work. DMADDS 1.1 will not abort on missing sprites.
If there are no bugs, this is the final DOS release. There
might be an extended Linux version soon. Please report any
bugs to Bernd.Kreimeier@nero.uni-bonn.de.
B.
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From: "Jason Hoffoss" <hoffo002@gold.tc.umn.edu>
Date: Tue, 22 Nov 94 17:57:08 CST
Subject: Re: DEU 5.3
On Sun, 20 Nov 94 12:31:12 CST,
tedv@geom.umn.edu <tedv@geom.umn.edu> wrote:
>What I don't know how to do is correctly indentify the IWAD as a DOOM ][
>wad. I suppose you could just get for a set of DOOM ][ specific sprites,
>like VILExxxx, KEENxxxx, etc, etc. But this is neccesary because we need
>to know if this is just the shareware DOOM.WAD renamed to DOOM2.WAD, which
>would allow level saving (though in the MAPxx format). Yes, you couldn't
>play those levels, but iD has stated that no one with a shareware version
>of DOOM should be able to create any add-on files for DOOM I or ][.
That's rather simple. The way I'm doing it with DMapEdit is to just check
if map01 through map32 all exist. If not, I assume this isn't a real Doom
II IWAD. For Doom I, I check for e1m1 through e3m9. If any one of these
are missing, boom, you are shareware. I think my editor is the only one
that's this picky about checking really.
-Jason
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From: tedv@geom.umn.edu
Date: Tue, 22 Nov 94 19:04:16 CST
Subject: Re: DEU 5.3
> That's rather simple. The way I'm doing it with DMapEdit is to just check
> if map01 through map32 all exist. If not, I assume this isn't a real Doom
> II IWAD. For Doom I, I check for e1m1 through e3m9. If any one of these
> are missing, boom, you are shareware. I think my editor is the only one
> that's this picky about checking really.
Oh, ok. BTW, Raphael finally added the DEU DOOM ][ compatability. :) I
hope I can get my hands on an alpha soon so I can start some extra coding
(well, like I have time now, but still).
Also: I heard a rumor that the version sold in Germany does not have the
two secret levels for obvious reasons. So you might just want to check
for MAP01 to MAP30.
- -Ted
- --
Ted Vessenes | "The only force stronger than fate is dramatic irony."
tedv@geom.umn.edu | "[William] Shatner couldn't direct his way out of the
tedv@cs.umn.edu | bathroom with both hands and a map!"
tjvessen@midway.uchicago.edu -Ryan Ingram (1st), -Kibo's .sig (2nd)
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From: cgasparo@cymbal.aix.calpoly.edu
Date: Tue, 22 Nov 1994 17:08:21 -0800
Subject: Re: DEU 5.3
>On Sun, 20 Nov 94 12:31:12 CST,
>tedv@geom.umn.edu <tedv@geom.umn.edu> wrote:
>
>>What I don't know how to do is correctly indentify the IWAD as a DOOM ][
>>wad. I suppose you could just get for a set of DOOM ][ specific sprites,
>>like VILExxxx, KEENxxxx, etc, etc. But this is neccesary because we need
>>to know if this is just the shareware DOOM.WAD renamed to DOOM2.WAD, which
>>would allow level saving (though in the MAPxx format). Yes, you couldn't
>>play those levels, but iD has stated that no one with a shareware version
>>of DOOM should be able to create any add-on files for DOOM I or ][.
>
>That's rather simple. The way I'm doing it with DMapEdit is to just check
>if map01 through map32 all exist. If not, I assume this isn't a real Doom
>II IWAD. For Doom I, I check for e1m1 through e3m9. If any one of these
>are missing, boom, you are shareware. I think my editor is the only one
>that's this picky about checking really.
>
> -Jason
Hold up a sec. Wouldn't it be alot nicer if you made it check only
1-*30*? What about the Germans? They only get 1-30. I think this is a
much fairer may as well as not alienating anyone.
Steve H.B.
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