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doom-editing-digest Monday, 5 December 1994 Volume 01 : Number 075
Re: Level 12 Help in Doom 2
Re: Level 12 Help in Doom 2
Re: Modifying the exe and mod...
Re: Level 12 Help in Doom 2
Re: Level 12 Help in Doom 2
Re: Level 12 Help in Doom 2
One last message
WAD questions
DeHackEd editing question
Re: DeHackEd editing question
Re: On a lighter note (Heretic?)
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From: tedv@geom.umn.edu
Date: Sat, 3 Dec 94 22:28:50 CST
Subject: Re: Level 12 Help in Doom 2
> I am astuck on level 12 in Doom II. Where is the exit? I have a yellow
> keycard but am unable to find a door to use it on.
What does this have to do with doom editing?
- -Ted
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Ted Vessenes | "The only force stronger than fate is dramatic irony."
tedv@geom.umn.edu | "[William] Shatner couldn't direct his way out of the
tedv@cs.umn.edu | bathroom with both hands and a map!"
tjvessen@midway.uchicago.edu -Ryan Ingram (1st), -Kibo's .sig (2nd)
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From: "John F. Harris" <jfharr01@homer.louisville.edu>
Date: Sun, 4 Dec 1994 02:49:46 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: Level 12 Help in Doom 2
>
> > I am astuck on level 12 in Doom II. Where is the exit? I have a yellow
> > keycard but am unable to find a door to use it on.
>
> What does this have to do with doom editing?
>
It's like a breath of fresh air to me :)
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From: MISC335@cantva.canterbury.ac.nz
Date: Sun, 4 Dec 1994 15:52:02 +1300
Subject: Re: Modifying the exe and mod...
> Just listen to yourselves, people! ID lets you rip open and edit one of
> best games ever (they even gave out source code to make it easier) and they
> state that they don't allow _one_ kind of hacking and you all go off like a
> bunch of spoiled kids who's toys have been taken away.
I have to agree, I can live with just making PWADs despite having tasted
more. I think we owe ID in that respect - What a medium for creativity!
However there is another side; Aliens-TC took six months of my life,
virtually all of my free time (I don't like to even think of it in terms
of hours) (what I'm saying here is personal sacrifice, and I'm hardly
alone in this) and now it may all come to nothing. In my mind, there is no
arguement, ID has the right, morally, if not legally, to have their .EXE left
alone, but in situations like mine, it hurts, to think of the waste.
When ID invited additions to doom, I didn't realise that meant "withen
limits", perhaps that is my fault, but I would appreciate the reason(s).
"Because I said so" is discouraging.
Hopefully, as I catch up with my mail, the reason may have been given.
Seeya
Justin Fisher
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From: "WILE E. COYOTE-SUPERGENIUS" <MEMKEN@ewu.edu>
Date: Sun, 04 Dec 1994 01:44:33 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Re: Level 12 Help in Doom 2
From: IN%"doom-editing@nvg.unit.no" 3-DEC-1994 16:38:06.87
To: IN%"doom-editing@nvg.unit.no"
CC:
Subj: You AOL Level 12 Philistine Suckmunch!!!
}I am astuck on level 12 in Doom II. Where is the exit? I have a yellow
}keycard but am unable to find a door to use it on.
}
}
I am on this list as an attempt to get away from people like you. Go
do something anatomically odd with youself on one of the many Doom
newsgroups. Of course those 450-pound-cheese-eating-VR-helmet-wearing-
Guns and Ammo-magazine-buying sloths on those groups are probably
still trying to figure where the jump button is...
"Wile E. Coyote-Supergenius"
Michael Emken <memken@ewu.edu>
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From: "J. Andrew Scherrer" <jas3@rsrch1.cit.cornell.edu>
Date: Sun, 4 Dec 1994 06:49:40 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: Level 12 Help in Doom 2
On Sun, 4 Dec 1994, WILE E. COYOTE-SUPERGENIUS wrote:
> From: IN%"doom-editing@nvg.unit.no" 3-DEC-1994 16:38:06.87
> To: IN%"doom-editing@nvg.unit.no"
> CC:
> Subj: You AOL Level 12 Philistine Suckmunch!!!
>
> }I am astuck on level 12 in Doom II. Where is the exit? I have a yellow
> }keycard but am unable to find a door to use it on.
> }
> }
>
> I am on this list as an attempt to get away from people like you. Go
> do something anatomically odd with youself on one of the many Doom
> newsgroups. Of course those 450-pound-cheese-eating-VR-helmet-wearing-
> Guns and Ammo-magazine-buying sloths on those groups are probably
> still trying to figure where the jump button is...
>
>
> "Wile E. Coyote-Supergenius"
> Michael Emken <memken@ewu.edu>
Why do I have to read *this* crap on the Editing list? 5 people reply to
this guy with flames, and then send it to the whole fucking group. You
bitch about a problem and then exacerbate it like this. You deserve to
have all the people with unrelated questions flooding your mailbox.
Instead of dozens of flames to the whole group, a POLITE message to the
originator would have a more productive effect in the direction you claim
is so important. What makes you think that sending this shit to us and to
him is going to prevent such offences in the future? Admit it. YOU are
merely looking for something to raise your dander so you can vent your
ire.
Amazing to me how so many smart people don't seem to be willing to THINK.
Andy Scherrer
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From: "C. Sheldon" <sheldonc@acy.digex.net>
Date: Sun, 4 Dec 1994 10:12:48 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: Level 12 Help in Doom 2
On Sun, 4 Dec 1994, J. Andrew Scherrer wrote:
>
> Amazing to me how so many smart people don't seem to be willing to THINK.
>
> Andy Scherrer
>
BRAVO BRAVO!! ENCORE ENCORE!!
Cliff Sheldon
aka: DrWu
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From: Greg Lewis <gregl@umich.edu>
Date: Sun, 4 Dec 1994 12:38:10 -0500 (EST)
Subject: One last message
OK, so my previous one wasn't the last one. So sue me.
I talked to another one of the Id guys last night (who said he doesn't
want to be drawn into this mess, so I won't mention his name), and he
illuminated things a bit. He said that he has absolutely no qualms about
exe editing, it's fine with him, etc etc. BUT, Jay has to keep the rule
about no exe modifications for legal reasons. Apparently it's something
to do with European copyright laws, that if the exe is modifiable it's no
longer effective or something. So, the sole reason for the ban is legal,
and they really don't care about the modifying itself.
Yay!
Greg Lewis
Author, DeHackEd
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From: mark.mathews@channel1.com (Mark Mathews)
Date: Sun, 04 Dec 1994 12:57:00 -0400
Subject: WAD questions
How far apart should linedefs be so they don't interfere with
each other?
Whats the farthest I can jump across in DOOM?
Mark Mathews mark.mathews@channel1.com
mmathews@genesis.nred.ma.us
DOOM, DOOM II, and ALIENS. The best!!!
That's it, man. Game over man, it's GAME OVER!
- Hudson from the movie ALIENS
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From: "WILE E. COYOTE-SUPERGENIUS" <MEMKEN@ewu.edu>
Date: Sun, 04 Dec 1994 14:49:12 -0800 (PST)
Subject: DeHackEd editing question
Thought it would be ok to post a DeHackEd question after that clarifier...
If I'm wrong I'm sure somebody is just itching to f*** me with a large
piece of wood.
Has anyone actually made a dhe patch that allowed the player to use the
ArchVile attack? It would seem that this is not possible since the player's
bullets don't discriminate berween targets while the artificial stupid
specifies one target to be affected by the ArchVile attack.
A funked out effect you can do with the ArchVile flame frames is to replace
the "exploding death" frames of say, a soldier or something, with the flame
frames. When you shoot the soldier with a rocket, there'll be an enormous
column of flame, then the soldier appears to just vaporize, leaving no body.
Call it the "Environmentally Concious Kill".
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Michael Emken <memken@ewu.edu>
RRRRoOOOOOooowwWWWWWWWRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG!!!!!!!! -Slow motion Kato attack
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From: BonesBro@aol.com
Date: Sun, 4 Dec 1994 19:10:46 -0500
Subject: Re: DeHackEd editing question
>A funked out effect you can do with the ArchVile flame frames is to >replace
the "exploding death" frames of say, a soldier or something, >with the flame
frames. When you shoot the soldier with a rocket, >there'll be an enormous
column of flame, then the soldier appears to >just vaporize, leaving no body.
Call it the "Environmentally Concious >Kill".
Well, what I did is make the BFG's shot look like a little puff of smoke, so
it's really hard to see (there are no "invisible" sprites, are there? I don't
mean selecting 'total invisibility' - then you can't see the explosion), and
made the explosion go to, uhhh, 667 I think, FIRExx. Oh yeah, and I made the
damage about 10x more - so you fire this almost completely invisible shot at
them then they get vaporized by the shot, with the body going REALLY far
away. A quote from a net game with this patch "Where the hell did that come
from???" after having a splatered corpse fly right past him -- from the other
side of the stage!
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From: Joe Pantuso <renegade@earth.execpc.com>
Date: Sun, 4 Dec 1994 18:32:00 -0600 (CST)
Subject: Re: On a lighter note (Heretic?)
>
> Seeing as how we've all been ranting about legal implications of
> EXE hacking, thought I'd introduce a breather and see if anyone knows
> when and where Heretic would be released (This IS December 1st...)
>
> Any plans to start a heritic-editing mailing list???
>
> --
> +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+
> Christian Antkow cant@softchoice.com
> Opinions are my own and in no way reflect those of the SoftChoice Corporation
A Heretic Editor will be available on our BBS the day after Heretic is in the
stores. (Assuming I can find one!).
Joe Pantuso
Renegade Graphics
(615)337-9198
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