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doom-editing-digest Wednesday, 9 November 1994 Volume 01 : Number 044
Re: Get me off this list
Re: Solid object demo
Re: Solid object demo
Re: Shareware vendors profiting from DEU.
Re: Shareware vendors profiting from DEU.
Re: Solid object demo
Re: 'Smear' effect; why and how to alleviate?
Re: Solid object demo
Re: 'Smear' effect; why and how to alleviate?
Re: Solid object demo
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From: Frederick Bradley <fjbradley@ucdavis.edu>
Date: Tue, 8 Nov 1994 13:56:44 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Re: Get me off this list
On Tue, 8 Nov 1994, Matthew Shea wrote:
> Hey Steve, get me off this list
> mtshea@ucsd.edu
> Thanks
>
>
MEE TOOOOOO!
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From: sky@verity.com (Sky Golightly)
Date: Tue, 8 Nov 1994 14:44:39 -0800
Subject: Re: Solid object demo
> On Nov 8, 13:47, Brian Todoroff wrote:
> >I have put a WAD on alt.binaries.doom demoing the raytraced object
> >we were talking about. It's not _great_ and the WAD was certainly
> >nowhere near completion when I stopped working on it, but you get
> >the idea.
> >
> >The message subject is: steve's doom-editing test post
> >and the WAD size zipped is about 70k.
> >
> >Let me know what you think.
> >
> >Steve.
>
> Unfortunatly I can't get a.g.d.b on this newsserver. Any chance you could
> e-mail it to me?
>
> Thanks,
> Brian
Ditto. Or just post it here, if no-one objects.
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Sky Golightly, Software R & D E-Mail: sky@verity.com
Verity, Inc., 1550 Plymouth Office: +1 415.960.7685
Mountain View, CA 94043-1230 Fax: +1 415.960.1421
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From: rrward@netcom.com (Richard Ward)
Date: Tue, 8 Nov 1994 15:07:25 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Re: Solid object demo
> > On Nov 8, 13:47, Brian Todoroff wrote:
> > >I have put a WAD on alt.binaries.doom demoing the raytraced object
> > >we were talking about. It's not _great_ and the WAD was certainly
> > >nowhere near completion when I stopped working on it, but you get
> > >the idea.
[snip]
> > >Steve.
> > Unfortunatly I can't get a.g.d.b on this newsserver. Any chance you could
> > e-mail it to me?
> > Thanks,
> > Brian
>
> Ditto. Or just post it here, if no-one objects.
Please do not. I get enough stuff in my mailbox without 70k binaries that I'm
not personally interested in. E-mail it to people who ask for it, but not to
the mailing list.
Thanks
Richard
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From: cgasparo@cymbal.aix.calpoly.edu
Date: Tue, 8 Nov 1994 15:13:27 -0800
Subject: Re: Shareware vendors profiting from DEU.
>I, for one, would *like* my stuff to get put on a CD. And I think that
>$19.95 is quite reasonable for such a collection. The most I might like
>in return is notification that my work has been put on CD. That would be
>nice. Is there any way I can *get* it on? =-]
Well Dan, this is the first contribution to this NON EDITING THREAD but
in my opinion, if they are going to put *your* work on a CD the least
they can do is send you a copy of the CD. If they can't do that small
amount of reconsiliation for using your work...
Steve H.B.
PS-They can pay the shipping too. CDs are dirt cheap to make and press,
they're not losing any money.
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From: cgasparo@cymbal.aix.calpoly.edu
Date: Tue, 8 Nov 1994 15:17:11 -0800
Subject: Re: Shareware vendors profiting from DEU.
>Carbon-BasedLifeForm <decerman@ouray.Denver.Colorado.EDU> said...
>>> Most people are pleased to see their work being distributed so greatly. And
>>> those seeking files can access a great deal of information on one CD, rather
>>> than slowing the net down by transferring files at relatively slow speeds.
>>> It's simply an easier form of accessing the files. For any company to have
>>> any interest in doing this, they have to make some profit. And of course
>>> enough money to pay employees. The profits also go into making our ftp
>>> site, wcarchive, bigger and faster. Personally, I'm pleased that my program,
>>> WADED, is being distributed on our CD, and the many other DOOM oriented CD's
>>> out there today.
>>>
>>> -Matt Ayres
>>
>>I, for one, would *like* my stuff to get put on a CD. And I think that
>>$19.95 is quite reasonable for such a collection. The most I might like
>>in return is notification that my work has been put on CD. That would be
>>nice. Is there any way I can *get* it on? =-]
>
>Almost everything on the official doom ftp site ends up on the disc. I know
>it's currently bouncing around, actually the official site is going to be ours,
>wcarchive (ftp.cdrom.com) To make sure it gets on the disc, you can send me
>private email telling me the file name and what it is. Make sure it contains
>no copyrighted material (music, graphics, etc.). If it does, it won't end up
>on the disc.
>
>-Matt Ayres
But Matt, if he were to ask for a copy of the CD for free, assuming you
put his work on the CD, would you do it? And if you think his work
doesn't warent the incredibly inexpensive CD (on your guys end) being
sent for free to him, they why would it be on the CD? If you ask me, if
you want to be fair, and don't want to pay any kind of gratuities, send
him a free CD!
Steve H.B.
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From: cgasparo@cymbal.aix.calpoly.edu
Date: Tue, 8 Nov 1994 15:21:16 -0800
Subject: Re: Solid object demo
>I have put a WAD on alt.binaries.doom demoing the raytraced object
>we were talking about. It's not _great_ and the WAD was certainly
>nowhere near completion when I stopped working on it, but you get
>the idea.
>
>The message subject is: steve's doom-editing test post
>and the WAD size zipped is about 70k.
>
>Let me know what you think.
>
>Steve.
Youwch! How come yours was so much smaller?! My graphics wad was alot
bigger than that! It contained about 20 graphical substitutions and is
around 600k.
Steve H.B.
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From: cgasparo@cymbal.aix.calpoly.edu
Date: Tue, 8 Nov 1994 15:24:53 -0800
Subject: Re: 'Smear' effect; why and how to alleviate?
>> Sounds like you are using DEU's node builder (no offense guys). Try
>> using BSP12x, never any problems for me.
>> But I did get the described problem with DEU's.
>> Steve H.B.
>
> Speakin of node builders. I have a wad that has a switchback staircase and
>I decided rather than use dead space I'd use a linedef with 2 sides that was
>IM,!2S and put textures on the normal. Anyway, BSP seems to do REALLY weird
>things with it. I think I can see through one wall. I'm going to check my
>sidedefs and try to figure out if it's really a 128-linedef problem (highly
>unlikely). If it's really BSP, then I'll have something for the BSP author
>to play with.
Can we get a uuencoded version to look at? Oh, and if you do, don't
forget to put world in the distribution. I haven't been seeing things
from people here at my alt.doom.binaries site. I'm at CalPoly in CA.
Steve H.B.
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From: cgasparo@cymbal.aix.calpoly.edu
Date: Tue, 8 Nov 1994 15:26:37 -0800
Subject: Re: Solid object demo
>Unfortunatly I can't get a.g.d.b on this newsserver. Any chance you could
>e-mail it to me?
>
>Thanks,
> Brian
Try alt.binaries.doom. It looks like you were trying
alt.games.binaries.doom.
Understandable mistake.
Steve H.B.
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From: "D.J.S. Damerell" <djsd100@cus.cam.ac.uk>
Date: Wed, 9 Nov 1994 00:39:39 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: Re: 'Smear' effect; why and how to alleviate?
On Tue, 8 Nov 1994 cgasparo@cymbal.aix.calpoly.edu wrote:
> Can we get a uuencoded version to look at? Oh, and if you do, don't
> forget to put world in the distribution. I haven't been seeing things
> from people here at my alt.doom.binaries site. I'm at CalPoly in CA.
> Steve H.B.
No, no, no, no. Distribution: lines are exclusive. A server looks at them
and says "Hmmmm? Am I _not_ in this? Then don't have that article."
Distribution: world does nothing except prevent the article reaching
hypothetical wierdly (wrongly) set up sites. The Distribution: line
should always be left blank if your intent is to post to the whole world.
ObDooMEditing: Now I've got a door that should work fine but when I
activate it the ceiling moves *down* 8 pixels into the floor. What the
hell is it up to?
David Damerell, GCV Sauricon. djsd100@cus.cam.ac.uk RL: Trinity, Cambridge
WOODHAL2.WAD on infant2. CUWoCS President. METLMAZE.WAD sometime soonish.
|___| All people's aims are unreachable, and their struggles futile. |___|
| | | When you see this true of your own aims, life becomes a vacuum. | | |
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From: btodorof@hmc.edu (Brian Todoroff)
Date: Tue, 8 Nov 1994 18:17:10 -0800
Subject: Re: Solid object demo
>>Unfortunatly I can't get a.g.d.b on this newsserver. Any chance you could
>>e-mail it to me?
>>
>>Thanks,
>> Brian
>
>Try alt.binaries.doom. It looks like you were trying
>alt.games.binaries.doom.
>Understandable mistake.
>Steve H.B.
No, just a typo. For some reason I get only the main doom newsgroup. No
doom-ii ect. Does anyone know the news server at CalTech and if it recives
all the doom groups? If so could you send me the name and/or ip address?
Thanks again,
Brian
Flame Avoiding Disclamer: I started this thread here accidentally. I ment
to e-mail the original message to the person not the group. =-P
Brian Todoroff
Harvey Mudd College
Class of '97
btodorof@hmc.edu
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