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HOMEBREW Digest #5282
HOMEBREW Digest #5282 Thu 24 January 2008
FORUM ON BEER, HOMEBREWING, AND RELATED ISSUES
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Contents:
beginning brewer ("Alex Rigoni")
CO2 in Brazil (Fred M. Scheer)
Wyeast Online Availability ("Rogers, Mike")
Searchable HBD archive progress update (Scott Alfter)
Sanitizers & Acid Rinse (Dana Edgell)
RE: Counter pressure bottle filler ("Ronald La Borde")
Fridge/Freezer conversion to beer tap (Tom Puskar)
What is an Apparent Rennerian? ("LANCE HARBISON")
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Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2008 04:05:29 -0600
From: "Alex Rigoni" <alex.rigoni at gmail.com>
Subject: beginning brewer
Hi Gang,
I just have a few fundamental questions as I prepare to brew my 2nd
batch (the first one turned out pretty good).
I want to make a picnic cooler mash tun w/ a manifold. Should I
bother drilling a hole in the side to use gravity flow or just run the
outlet over the side of the cooler and siphon it out? Also, can put
the manifold in the cooler before I begin the mash or should I wait
until I'm ready to lauter?
I have 6 month old milled grain at home. Is this considered to old to use?
Thanks for the help.
Alex
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Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2008 12:03:40 +0000
From: fredscheer07 at comcast.net (Fred M. Scheer)
Subject: CO2 in Brazil
HI Alex:
You keep the beer at to low temperature.
I recommend to keep at ~34*F and 10 PSI
pressure, which will give you ~ 2.58 Vol. % CO2.
I hope it helps.
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Fred M. Scheer
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Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2008 07:43:12 -0500
From: "Rogers, Mike" <mike.rogers at eds.com>
Subject: Wyeast Online Availability
I'm suffering a bit here in Mid-Michigan with the lack of available
Wyeast - make that availability of any fresh yeast. Our one local shop
has converted to White Labs due to White Labs retailer yeast recycle
policy, and the ease of storage in the angled racks, but still seems to
have trouble stocking fresh yeast.
I'm o.k. with White Labs products, but I much prefer several strains of
Wyeast, especially the 1028 London Ale.
I've checked online, but couldn't find any retailers. MoreBeer also
switched to White Labs. Does anyone know of a good online source for
Wyeast?
Mike Rogers
Cass River Homebrewers
Frankenmuth, Mi.
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Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2008 10:27:42 -0800
From: Scott Alfter <scott at alfter.us>
Subject: Searchable HBD archive progress update
Things are moving along better than I expected. Except for the most recent
additions to the archive at hbd.org, I have split out all the messages through
#5280 and dumped them into a MySQL database. I thought I was going to have to
implement my own full-text search, but MySQL 5.x has one built in that seems to
work pretty well. With it, I can do something like this:
select id from posts where match(body) against ('classic american pilsner')
limit 0,20;
to get the 20 most relevant posts on CAPs. I have the homebrewing wisdom of
the ages (or at least of the past 2*10^-1 centuries :-) ) on tap.
With that milestone passed, now I just need to cobble together a web interface
and a system to keep the database updated with new articles. The latter task
should be easy to set up as a procmail job on new arrivals; the scripts I wrote
to split digests only failed on some really old digests, and the script to
insert posts into the database worked flawlessly. The web interface is just so
much scut work that needs to be done to make the database useful to the public.
_/_ Scott Alfter
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Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2008 16:26:13 -0500
From: Dana Edgell <dedg at lle.rochester.edu>
Subject: Sanitizers & Acid Rinse
HBD,
A couple of questions ...
1) I am looking for a good/cheap source of chlorine dioxide and/or
peroxyacetic acid sanitizers in about a 1 gal package size. Any suggestions?
2) I have a product "Sterosol Milkstone Remover and Acid Rinse". The
directions never mention rinsing this off after soaking dairy
equipment/parts in this (perhaps because it is a "rinse" itself) but do
say to sanitize objects before use. After soaking brewing equipment to
remove beerstone can I just air dry or should I rinse with water?
3) This "Sterosol Milkstone Remover and Acid Rinse" is primarily
phosphoric acid. Can it be used to acid wash yeast? It doesn't say
food-grade so I assume it cannot be used but I though it wouldn't hurt
to ask.
Thanks,
Dana Edgell
Fairport, NY
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Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2008 15:37:50 -0600
From: "Ronald La Borde" <pivoron at cox.net>
Subject: RE: Counter pressure bottle filler
>From: "Alexandre Carminati" <afcarminati at gmail.com>
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>I am having a bit problem with my CP bottle filler. Bottles get filled
>easily and when poured beer is OK (good head and well carbonated). The
>problem I see is there is no "pop" or "fizz" when I open the bottle.
>I had carbonated beer at 1 kg/cm2 (44 PSI) for 2 days and used same
>pressure at CP filler; beer temperature is around -2 C (28 F)
Not exactly sure what your problem is with the "fizz". If your beer is at
28F, probably little to no "fizz" would be heard. That's pretty cold
serving temperature for a beer. Of course it's east to warm up a bottle and
see what happens then.
You had carbonated beer at 44 PSI for 2 days, but did you agitate to enhanse
absorption of the CO2?
I suspect it may take more than 2 days to reach your desired carbonation,
depending on the temperature of the beer.
So, if the beer has good head and is well carbonated, shucks, I would not
let a little missing "fizz" bother me!
Ronald J. La Borde -- Metairie, LA
New Orleans is the suburb of Metairie, LA
New Orleans is the New Atlantis
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Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2008 19:42:44 -0500
From: Tom Puskar <tpuskar at optonline.net>
Subject: Fridge/Freezer conversion to beer tap
I'm getting a bit tired of bottling and would like to go back to kegging my
beer. I used to but never had time, money or space to install a converted
fridge or freezer to a multihandle tap system. Serving several different
chilled beers was a challenge!
Now that I have a bit more of all those things, I wish I had saved all those
articles about how to create such a device!
Can someone point me in the right direction on how to make a system which
could contain 4-6 (maximum) corny kegs at once?
Is it better to start with a chest freezer or fridge? Any recommendations
on where to buy one and brand recommendations?
How difficult is it to install one of those conversion kits I remember
reading about?
Where's the best place to by hardware (taps, towers, handles etc)? If I
decide to do it, I'll buy the CO2 tanks, regulators etc at my local homebrew
shop.
What price range can I expect to pay starting from scratch.
As always, I look forward to the wisdom and help of this fine group.
Tom in Howell, NJ
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Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2008 21:10:15 -0500
From: "LANCE HARBISON" <harbison65 at verizon.net>
Subject: What is an Apparent Rennerian?
Forgive me for my ignorance. I am fairly new to the HBD and have often seen
sign-offs reflecting "Apparent Rennerian". I am guessing that this is some
type of homage to Jeff Renner and would like clarification.
Other than that, I am thinking of acidifying my sparge water for the first
time with lactic acid. What is the desired pH and how much of 88% lactic
acid would I add to 13 gallons to get it?
Lance Harbison
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End of HOMEBREW Digest #5282, 01/24/08
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