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HOMEBREW Digest #5162
HOMEBREW Digest #5162 Fri 16 March 2007
FORUM ON BEER, HOMEBREWING, AND RELATED ISSUES
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Contents:
RE: hop rhizomes ("William C. Tobler")
hop rhizomes ("Keith Anderson")
re: hop rhizomes (Glyn)
Call for Judges, NHC East Regional, Cleveland (Paul Shick)
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Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 07:57:24 -0500
From: "William C. Tobler" <wtobler at houston.rr.com>
Subject: RE: hop rhizomes
Andrew Stuart asks about hop rhizomes:
"I know from experience that where you get your strains (genetics)
can greatly
affect the outcome of the plant, along with fertilization etc. Do any
of you know where I could go to find some good hop strains? Does it
really matter (after all the processing during brewing?)"
FreshHops can answer all your hop rhizomes questions. They start
selling March 21st. Give them a call.
http://www.freshops.com/index.html
Bill Tobler
Lake Jackson, TX
(1129.2, 219.9) Apparent Rennerian
Brewing Great Beer in South Texas
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Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 08:47:28 -0400
From: "Keith Anderson" <keithxanderson at gmail.com>
Subject: hop rhizomes
"Andrew Stuart" <acstuart at gmail.com> writes:
>I've been brewing for about 6 months now and I want to take the
>opportunity of the new springtime to grow some hops and see if there
>is a difference between fresh hops and hop pellets/old dried whole
>hops. I have talked to my local brewmaster store but they don't have a
>lot of information about where their rhizomes are from. I know from
>experience that where you get your strains (genetics) can greatly
>affect the outcome of the plant, along with fertilization etc. Do any
>of you know where I could go to find some good hop strains? Does it
>really matter (after all the processing during brewing?) Since its
>going to take at least 6 months to grow these I want to make sure I
>start off on the left foot. Below are a couple of websites I have
>found for ordering rhizomes. Thanks for your input!
Hi Andrew,
I grew cascades in my backyard back in NJ for a few years and found it
to be lots of work with not as much reward as just growing some
vegatables. The hops I grew weren't very aromatic and didn't provide
much bittering. I also did not fertilize them with anything but
compost so maybe they were missing some key nutrient. I did get
plenty of hops in the first year but mine were no better dried than
some store bought cascades. I might have picked about three full
paper shopping bags from three plants which maybe gave me about a
pound dried (you have to dry them). I did like using them fresh off
the vine as finishing hops (without drying) in a few batches which
gave a nice flavor but this wasn't worth the overall work to me.
The most frustrating part was cobbling together a support system for
them to climb. They want to grow straight up vertically at least 20
feet. A hook at the peak of your 2nd story roof may work if the soil
near your foundation is decent (mine was too dry). I found using
string at a 45 degree angle run to the roof did not work since they
want to climb straight up vertically (stopped climbing at the mid
point of the string). I eventually just put them on a trellis since I
wasn't going to put a few telephone poles in my small yard. Which
forced me to prune them back weekly (cascades grow like wildfire and
you start to think of them as invasive weeds). Also you will have to
rip out all the vines in the fall which is no small task.
They are fun to grow at first but I found it was too much work without
much reward. If you could build some kind of trellis that looked nice
and also had the hops growing on them I think it would serve a dual
purpose and the hops would just be a bonus.
Keith
Chapel Hill, NC (was in Red Bank, NJ)
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Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 07:56:33 -0700 (PDT)
From: Glyn <graininfuser at yahoo.com>
Subject: re: hop rhizomes
Northern Brewer (which has supported HBD in the past)
has hop rhizomes:
http://www.northernbrewer.com/rhizomes.html
Another place I have purchase both hops and rhizomes from:
http://www.freshops.com/rhizinfo.html
They are fun to grow! Remember:
Sun, water, sun, compost, sun
Glyn
S. Middle TN
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Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 11:59:57 -0400
From: Paul Shick <shick at jcu.edu>
Subject: Call for Judges, NHC East Regional, Cleveland
Greetings Homebrewers,
We are looking for judges for the 1st round of the American Homebrew
Association's NHC Eastern Region. Judging will be held on Friday April
20th(evening), and Saturday April 21, 2007(morning and afternoon). They
will be held at J.W. Dover in Westlake, Ohio. Lunch and Dinner will be
provided on Saturday for all judges. We are working on some lodging
accommodations for those of you traveling from nearby states.
Also, we will be throwing a usual banquet Saturday evening with a great
meal and of course-- BEER. If that is not enough, there will be several
flights to enjoy drinking homebrew.
If you are available to judge, please contact Bill Hoyt, Judge
Coordinator via email at wgh at uakron.edu. As always we are also looking
for people to help out with food, beer, unpacking, and more beer. Hope
to see you then!
Cheers!
Bill Hoyt
NHC Eastern Region Judge Coordinator
wgh at uakron.edu
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End of HOMEBREW Digest #5162, 03/16/07
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