Copy Link
Add to Bookmark
Report
HOMEBREW Digest #4074
HOMEBREW Digest #4074 Wed 23 October 2002
FORUM ON BEER, HOMEBREWING, AND RELATED ISSUES
Digest Janitor: janitor@hbd.org
***************************************************************
THIS YEAR'S HOME BREW DIGEST BROUGHT TO YOU BY:
Northern Brewer, Ltd. Home Brew Supplies
http://www.northernbrewer.com 1-800-681-2739
Support those who support you! Visit our sponsor's site!
********** Also visit http://hbd.org/hbdsponsors.html *********
Contents:
re: Empty Bottles ("Mark Tumarkin")
SNPA help requested ("Grant")
Rosemary beer ("Tidmarsh Major")
re: Frankenmuth Homebrew Club ("Rogers, Mike")
35 mm Film Cansiters (jodysdad)
RE: Sealing the top of the Conical ("Wayne Holder")
Thanks to Music City Homebrewers (Jeff Renner)
(no subject) (GibbonsRR)
Re: Twist-off bottles (Peter Torgrimson)
re: Question about temperature changes ("The Artist Formerly Known As Kap'n Salty")
yeast blending ("Spinelli, Mike")
*
* Show your HBD pride! Wear an HBD Badge!
* http://hbd.org/cgi-bin/shopping
*
* Beer is our obsession and we're late for therapy!
*
Send articles for __publication_only__ to post@hbd.org
If your e-mail account is being deleted, please unsubscribe first!!
To SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE send an e-mail message with the word
"subscribe" or "unsubscribe" to request@hbd.org FROM THE E-MAIL
ACCOUNT YOU WISH TO HAVE SUBSCRIBED OR UNSUBSCRIBED!!!**
IF YOU HAVE SPAM-PROOFED your e-mail address, you cannot subscribe to
the digest as we cannot reach you. We will not correct your address
for the automation - that's your job.
HAVING TROUBLE posting, subscribing or unsusubscribing? See the HBD FAQ at
http://hbd.org.
The HBD is a copyrighted document. The compilation is copyright
HBD.ORG. Individual postings are copyright by their authors. ASK
before reproducing and you'll rarely have trouble. Digest content
cannot be reproduced by any means for sale or profit.
More information is available by sending the word "info" to
req@hbd.org or read the HBD FAQ at http://hbd.org.
JANITOR on duty: Pat Babcock and Karl Lutzen (janitor@hbd.org)
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2002 06:41:31 -0400
From: "Mark Tumarkin" <mark_t@ix.netcom.com>
Subject: re: Empty Bottles
Mary asks if it's possible to cap twist-off bottles. The answer is yes, but I
don't recommend it. There's always a danger that the thinner glass in the
twist-off threads will break. There's probably less danger of this if you use
a bench capper rather than a hand-held. Still, I'd suggest buying a beer that
comes in standard bottles, or ask your friends to save them for you. Or ask at
your neighborhood bar. They'll often be happy to provide bottles, especially
if you accompany your request with some homebrew.
Mark Tumarkin
Hogtown Brewers
Gainesville, FL
------------------------------
Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2002 09:10:46 +1000
From: "Grant" <gstott@primus.com.au>
Subject: SNPA help requested
G'day all,
I would like to brew a batch of American Pale Ale similar to Sierra Nevada
Pale Ale. Unfortunately I cannot get it over here in Australia & therefore I
am in need of a few pointers.
I am planning to use pilsner malt as a base as I have plenty on hand, &
therefore assume I should use a small amount of Munich & crystal malts.
I am planning to use Perle for bittering & cascade for FWH ,aroma & possibly
dry hop. Wyeast 1056.
Being in a Metric country I brew 23 Litre batches & weigh in grams & Kg.
Questions. 1. What O.G should I aim for?
2. How dark (SRM)
3. How Bitter (IBU)
Any other pointers?
Thanks in advance for your help.
Grant Stott
[9906, 260] AR (statute miles) or [15942.2, 260] AR [Km]
------------------------------
Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2002 07:18:44 -0500
From: "Tidmarsh Major" <tidmarsh@bellsouth.net>
Subject: Rosemary beer
Eric Lande asked about using rosemary & basil in beer. I can't
comment on the basil, but I have brewed with rosemary.
A few years ago I brewed a rosemary pale ale, using bittering and
flavor hops but using 2 ounces of fresh rosemary leaves (for 5
galllons) at knockout instead of aroma hops. The rosemary aroma was
strong initially, but not terribly overpowering (think Sierra Nevada
with
a rosemary rather than cascada aroma). It was very tasty, and I will
probably get around to brewing another one someday.
Regards,
Tidmarsh Major
Tuscaloosa, Ala.
------------------------------
Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2002 08:20:52 -0400
From: "Rogers, Mike" <mike.rogers@eds.com>
Subject: re: Frankenmuth Homebrew Club
Yes Fred, the Cass River Homebrew Club is alive as ever with approximately
30 members, 20 active. We typically meet the first Friday of every month at
the Frankentrost Pub on M-46. Your name is often mentioned by some of the
long time members and guests. BIBERE is defunct, but the club is brewing
along very well! Check out our website if you are interested in stopping by
sometime... www.hbd.org/cassriverhomebrewers
============================================================================
================
Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 19:03:03 -0500
From: "Fred Scheer" <fhopheads@msn.com>
Subject: question
Hello:
Our Homebrew club, the Music City Homebrewers, and
I spent the whole weekend with Jeff Renner here in
Nashville, TN. We where very busy with Judging,
having fun etc., and I forgot to ask Jeff if the
Frankenmuth, MI, homebrew club, BIBERE, still
exists? Anybody knows.....?
Fred M. Scheer
Mike Rogers
Cass River Homebrewers - Mid Michigan
www.hbd.org/cassriverhomebrewers
mailto:mike01_rogers@yahoo.com
[76.4, 2.6] Apparent Rennerian
------------------------------
Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2002 08:33:10 -0400 (EDT)
From: jodysdad@starchefs.com
Subject: 35 mm Film Cansiters
Ok, what the heck could you possibly use 35mm Plastic Film canisters for
when brewing? Well the semi-clear ones,(or semi-opaque if you are negative
like me)I thought might be useful for pouring slants to store yeast. I
know these are bigger and they may not hold up to the heat of sterillizing
but I am a cheapskate and I thought this might be an idea. My question for
those with backgrounds in chemistry or something is this. I notice when
you open the darn things they smell like, well, film. I know that there
are some pretty nasty chemicals used in the manufacturing of film and
there's nothing like a little silver nitrate to make life interesting. Is
there really that much of a residue inside those canisters or can the just
simply be washed out well? If they can, and they hold up to
sterillization, I don't see why I couldn't pour slants in them. What do
you think???
Mike from Columbus,
Go Bucks!!!
------------------------------
Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2002 06:02:20 -0700
From: "Wayne Holder" <zymie@charter.net>
Subject: RE: Sealing the top of the Conical
Christian says:
"oring to seal the top ~$13.00"
I once thought that this would be a good solution as well, but later found
out that it is quite difficult to get the o-ring to lay flat on the rim of
the cone. O-rings that large are most likely rolled up when you get them.
Even if they aren't, with a diameter that large they won't want to stay
round and sit nicely on a 1/2" ledge.
When our new 12.2 conical stand debuts shortly, it'll include a conical seal
that fits around the lip of the cone. A seal for the larger 21.5 gallon cone
could be easily made as well.
Maybe you'll get lucky and won't use up too many treats trying to train your
o-ring. I gave up on mine.
Wayne Holder AKA Zymie
Long Beach CA
http://www.zymico.com
------------------------------
Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2002 10:40:19 -0400
From: Jeff Renner <JeffRenner@comcast.net>
Subject: Thanks to Music City Homebrewers
In HOMEBREW Digest #4073, Tue 22 October 2002, "Fred Scheer"
<fhopheads@msn.com> wrote from Nashville:
>Our Homebrew club, the Music City Homebrewers, and
>I spent the whole weekend with Jeff Renner here in
>Nashville, TN. We where very busy with Judging,
>having fun etc.
We certainly were very busy. I want to publicly thank the Music City
Homebrewers for inviting me down to Nashville and for their very
gracious and incredibly generous hospitality. Throughout the four
day weekend, my money was no good. Everywhere I turned someone was
thrusting a beer in my hand.
The judging on Saturday was a pleasure (with the Pilsners having been
judged earlier in the week, I got the breakfast of champions at 9:30
am, barleywines and Russian Imperial Stouts). BOS was after lunch
while the festivities were going on, and HBDer John (Cyserman)
Campbell took Best of Show with a wonderful cyser. Then a pub crawl,
I think. At least I kept finding myself in one pub after another
with one beer after another. Then I don't remember much.
Sunday bright and early we started a Classic American Pilsner brewing
demonstration with full cereal mash which went very well, with a
break for a huge southern brunch.
So thanks again to the club and president Steve Johnson for inviting
me down, to Fred for suggesting my name, John and Linda Campbell and
Ken Rebman (Steve, please thank him for me, I don't have his email)
for putting me up and driving me around, and all the other great
brewers. My hat is off to you all for a great festive weekend.
>I forgot to ask Jeff if the
>Frankenmuth, MI, homebrew club, BIBERE, still
>exists? Anybody knows.....?
I haven't heard anything from them in some time, but there is the
Cass River Homebrewers up near there. Mike Rogers from that group, a
regular HBDer, might be able to answer.
Jeff
Jeff
- --
Jeff Renner in Ann Arbor, Michigan USA, JeffRenner@comcast.net
"One never knows, do one?" Fats Waller, American Musician, 1904-1943
------------------------------
Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2002 11:37:11 EDT
From: GibbonsRR@aol.com
Subject: (no subject)
Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 11:40:59 -0500
From: "Mary Johnson" <mpmarus@hotpop.com>
Subject: Empty Bottles
OK, I'm fairly new to the hobby (addiction).
In the last digest, Mark Tumarkin mentioned saving beer bottles for reuse.
All the bottles I get have twist-off caps...are y'all successful at
re-capping
those?
Thanks
Mary
www.mj-pg.com
Retriever Brewers
Mary,
Welcome to the addiction.
When I starred home brewing I used twist off caps and had very few issues.
However I switched to returnable bar bottles, (Brown longnecks) and never
looked back. They cap well, are heavier glass and are all the same height
which makes using a bench capper easier. Plus the fiberboard cases are great
for storing/stacking. A local restaurant we frequent is happy to sell me
empty cases for $1.50/case. I found Saturday morning before they get busy
the best time to stop in.
A couple years ago someone here was good enough to offer an excel sheet that
printed the labels on Avery 1" round labels, 05410. They fit on the bottle
caps so I can see what I am reaching for and I only have to remove the labels
once. Time I returned the favor, so if anyone would like a copy let me know.
Rick in Scituate, MA
RGibbons@aol.com
------------------------------
Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2002 12:21:07 -0500
From: Peter Torgrimson <petertorgrimson@prodigy.net>
Subject: Re: Twist-off bottles
Mary Johnson asks about using twist-off cap bottles.
I have only a limited experience with these bottles. If I am doing a
doctored beer demonstration, I sometimes get the base beer in twist-off
cap bottles. I dose them with the "doctored" ingredient and recap them.
I use a bench capper and use as little pressure as I think I can use to
get a seal. It only has to hold for the rest of the day as I always
prepare the doctored beer samples on the day we are going to use them.
Although my experience is extremely limited, I have not broken any
bottles, and all of them have sealed. I remain very concerned about
capping pressure on these bottles, though, and I don't use them for my
homebrew.
With all of the traditional bottles available, it seems to be an
unnecessary risk to use these bottles. If you have an insufficient
number of bottles, as I did when I started brewing, I recommend you
connect with a homebrew club. The experienced brewers probably have
more bottles than they can use and will happily give you several cases.
[A side benefit of connecting with a homebrew club is that you will meet
a good group of people and will learn gobs (is this a technical term?)
about how to brew better beer.] Another idea is to attend a homebrew
competition, and pick up the bottles discarded there. Most competitions
discard literally hundreds and thousands of bottles.
Peter Torgrimson
Austin, TX
------------------------------
Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2002 13:53:15 -0500
From: "The Artist Formerly Known As Kap'n Salty" <mikey@swampgas.com>
Subject: re: Question about temperature changes
> I use the same refrigerator for fermenting, lagering,
> conditioning and aging.
> As I keep brewing, these phases
> overlap for several batches.
I brew lager beers the same way, since I like to reuse the yeast cake
a few times (2-4). I've never noticed any ill effects on aging batches
from letting temps rise briefly into the primary fermentation range
(for me this is about 43-47F) or into the diacetyl rest range. Note
that I use a lot of yeast when I ferment a lager -- most of the
extract is consumed typically within 4 days, even at very low temps.
For a diacetyl rest, I usually remove the fermentor from the freezer,
let it rest overnight -- the temp rises to about 65 F -- and then put
it back in the freezer set at around 58F or so, lowering the temp
4-8F/day depending on my mood. None of this seems to affect the other
beers aging in kegs.
Hope that helps -- m
====
Teleoperate a roving mobile robot from the web:
http://www.swampgas.com/robotics/rover.html
------------------------------
Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2002 15:32:57 -0400
From: "Spinelli, Mike" <paa3983@dscp.dla.mil>
Subject: yeast blending
HBDers,
I'm doing a 20 gallon all grain IPA batch with a 1.060 OG this weekend.
I've got about 8 oz. of solid yeast slurry from Victory Brewing I plan on
using. I'm concerned I might not have enough yeast, so I was thinking of
throwing in 5 packets of dry Nottingham (re-hydrated) for insurance.
Questions: Do I need the extra dry yeast? If so, what effect will the
blending of the 2 yeast have on the batch?
Thanks
Mike Spinelli
Cherry Hill NJ
------------------------------
End of HOMEBREW Digest #4074, 10/23/02
*************************************
-------
