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HOMEBREW Digest #3685
HOMEBREW Digest #3685 Mon 16 July 2001
FORUM ON BEER, HOMEBREWING, AND RELATED ISSUES
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Contents:
aeration filter (The Freemans)
Re: Gas Filtration ("Houseman, David L")
More Shipping Beer. . . ("Galloway")
Third Annual Blue Ridge Brew Off ("Jay and Arlene Adams")
Deposits on bottle walls ("Dan Listermann")
Kg of Methane and Kcalories ("Mauricio Wagner")
Re: DWC malts (Jeff Renner)
gas filtration ("Paddock Wood Brewing Supplies")
Re: aeration filter ("Fred L. Johnson")
Evaporation Rate (Brewer Bob)
De Wolf Cosyns ("Marc Morency")
Gas Filtration Supplies/Dishwasher Muck ("Bob Sutton")
Brewing equipment ("Keller, Steven W.")
So Many Beers, So Little Time! (Jimmy Overcast)
One heck of a chest freezer conversion ("bsmnt")
dishwashers ("Sean Richens")
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Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2001 08:05:57 -0500
From: The Freemans <potsus@Bellsouth.net>
Subject: aeration filter
First, a 45 micron filter is hardly a bacteria filter. Williams Brewing
(NAYY) http://www.williamsbrewing.com/index.html has a .2 micron that is
a little more like what is needed. It ain't cheap at $5.90, but it can
be used over and over.
http://www.williamsbrewing.com/AB1605000Store/images/Q45.JPG
Forced aeration is one of those things that is gonna cost you some money
whatever way you choose to go - aquarium pump or O2 bottle - but the
results of fermentation with large starters and well aerated wort can't
be beat.
Bill Freeman aka Elder Rat
K P Brewery - home of "the perfesser"
Birmingham, AL
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Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2001 09:43:32 -0400
From: "Houseman, David L" <David.Houseman@unisys.com>
Subject: Re: Gas Filtration
I bought several in-line filters for air (not to be wetted) that does filter
out bacteria, etc. Don't know the micron size but it's considerably finer
than 45 microns. I got mine at one of these retail medical supply stores
that provide supplies to people who are homebound. They cost about a dollar
apiece as I recall. I've had them a long time and reused them with my
aquarium pump. Now that I'm using O2, they are on a shelf somewhere....
Dave Houseman
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Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2001 10:17:25 -0400
From: "Galloway" <galloway@gtcom.net>
Subject: More Shipping Beer. . .
Mr. Breidenbach's story reminded me of an international beer incident of my
own. I sell military surplus shipping cases on ebay (among other things).
This guy from France JUST had to have one. International shipping rates are
ruinous and that pretty much whacked the deal. A few weeks later, Luckos was
coming from France and wanted to know if I could ship the case to Arizona
instead. In our conversations I learned that he was from the area of France
that shares a border with Belgium ( can you see where this is going yet?).
Rather then using filthy lucre to seal the deal, I suggested that the medium
of exchange should be beer, more specifically, Belgian beers. He wondered
what the big deal was about Belgian beers. About a week after he gets in
country I find a HUGE box on my door step. WOOHOO!!! I hoisted it up and
shook gently and heard, nothing. . . . What the????? I wondered. . . . I
opened the box and found it shot FULL of expansion foam. It took me two
hours to carve free all 32 beers from the foam. He had wrapped each bottle
in tin foil and filled each "layer" with foam as he went. It was like being
on an archeological dig getting those bottle out. The bottom line is, not
one of them broke, and those were some of the best beers of my life. . .
Don't you just love the internet??
Regards,
Dave Galloway
Chattahoochee, FL
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Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2001 11:06:38 -0400
From: "Jay and Arlene Adams" <goosepoint@teleplex.net>
Subject: Third Annual Blue Ridge Brew Off
Brewers and judges,
The Mountain Ale and Lager Tasters of Asheville, NC, invite you to enter and
judge in the Third Annual Blue Ridge Brew Off, scheduled for September 8 at
Asheville Pizza and Brewing. Last year, BRBO was the largest homebrew
competition in NC. This year we expect to be even bigger now that we have
been selected as a qualifying event for Mid South Homebrewer of the Year.
BRBO is also a qualifying event for North Carolina Brewer of the Year. We
take pride in providing high quality judging and some of the best prizes of
any competition in the region. In addition to high quality ribbons, prizes
donated by our generous sponsors will include gift certificates from
homebrew
shops and yeast suppliers, subscriptions to magazines, books on brewing and
beer, T-shirts, hats, glassware, grain, hops, brewing chemicals, brewing
software, brewing gadgets, beer, and more.
We are pleased to announce that the following companies have signed on as
sponsors:
All About Beer Magazine - America's foremost beer magazine
Alternative Beverage - beer and wine making supplies
Asheville Brewers Supply - beer and wine making supplies
Asheville Pizza and Brewing - handcrafted beer, great food, movies and more
Assembly Required - beer and wine making supplies
Highland Brewing Company - brewing hand-crafted beer since 1994
Homebrew Adventures - beer and wine making supplies
Liquid Bread - home of the OXYNATOR and CARBONATOR
Logic - brewing chemicals
ProMash - brewing software for the discriminating brewer
White Labs - manufacturers of liquid yeast for home and professional brewers
and wine makers
See our website http://www.caveartstudios.com/malt/brbo3.html to download
the
entry package and get details on how to enter. We need judges and stewards
and will buy lunch for out-of-town judges and provide overnight
accommodations for as many as possible. If you are interested in judging
and/or need accommodations, contact Judge Coordinator, Jay Adams, at
goosepoint@teleplex.net.
Please pass this announcement on to fellow brewers and judges and post to
appropriate homebrew-related list serves. Hope to see you and your beer on
September 8th at Asheville Pizza and Brewing. Thanks.
Brian Cole
Organizer, BRBO
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Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2001 11:06:40 -0400
From: "Dan Listermann" <dan@listermann.com>
Subject: Deposits on bottle walls
Every once in a while some one asks about what appears to be yeast clinging
to the sides of their bottles, usually only on one side and in the same
direction. The other day I observed this in one of five 3L bottles. The
bottles were fully carbonated before refrigeration, so I am starting to
doubt that the particles were yeast. They may have been chill haze, but
only one of the five demonstrated this phenomenon. For future reference,
they were on the South side of the fridge, facing the door.
Dan Listermann
Check out our new E-tail site at http://www.listermann.com
Take a look at the anti-telemarketer forum. It is my new hobby!
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Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2001 17:36:48 -0300
From: "Mauricio Wagner" <mwagner@alean.com.ar>
Subject: Kg of Methane and Kcalories
I'm using bottled Methane (15 Kg) to boile the Wort and I would like to know
how many Kcalories I can get from each Kg of bottled Methane in a certain
amount of time.
Could some one help me in the related math expressions I'll need to use?
Private messages are wellcome.
>From Argentina,
Best Regards
Mauricio Wagner
La Pagina Oficial de la Lista
http://www.cerveceroscaseros.com.ar
y tambien en:
http://come.to/birraclub
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Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2001 11:16:53 -0400
From: Jeff Renner <JeffRenner@mediaone.net>
Subject: Re: DWC malts
Stephen Ross of "Paddock Wood Brewing Supplies"
<orders@paddockwood.com> wrote:
>with the possible
>exception of Special-B, the DWC malts were easily replaced. With
>Weyermann's new additions, even the Special-B can be approximated.
>
><snip> for Special-B which the new seems to be very similar to
>the new Weyermann CaraAroma (33 PPG, 110-150 SRM). Initial reports seem to
>suggest that the CaraAroma may not be as 'raisiny' as the Special-B, but
>this malt is so new to our listings we haven't had enough experience with it
>to be absolutely certain. Has anyone else brewed with CaraAroma?
I haven't, but another candidate is Briess' Extra Special Malt. From
http://www.briess.com/Products/es.htm :
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TYPICAL ANALYTICAL
SPECIFICATIONS: Moisture 6.0 %
Color* 125-135 L
Flavor raisins, slight chocolate
ADVANTAGES:
* Extra Special Malt is used in many types of beer to provide
the profound raisiny flavor notes usually associated with darker high
gravity beers such as doppelbock. Extra Special Malt can be used to
enhance standard or lighter gravity brews to provide a richer, more
complex flavor profile.
* The bread-like, raisiny, and slight chocolate flavors and
aroma from Extra Special Malt are ideal for any beer style.
* Extra Special Malt gives a deep red to copper color.
APPLICATIONS:
* For dark beer, use 3 - 5 % to provide color, flavor, and aroma.
* For porter and stout, use 10 - 15 %.
BARLEY VARIETIES:
* AMBA (American Malting Barley Association) approved 2-Row varieties.
I have a brown ale aging that I used this in, but it isn't ready for
prime time yet.
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Jeff
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Jeff Renner in Ann Arbor, Michigan USA, JeffRenner@mediaone.net
"One never knows, do one?" Fats Waller, American Musician, 1904-1943
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Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2001 12:57:00 -0600
From: "Paddock Wood Brewing Supplies" <orders@paddockwood.com>
Subject: gas filtration
"Fred L. Johnson" <FLJohnson@worldnet.att.net> asks about cheap filters for
use with aquarium pump aeration systems. We've been happy with an in-line
replaceable 0.22 micron air filter; it has inputs for small airline hose on
each side of a small disk filter. Retails for about $3.99 US.
cheers,
Stephen Ross -- "Vitae sine cerevisiis sugant."
Paddock Wood Brewing Supplies, Saskatoon, SK, Canada
orders@paddockwood.com www.paddockwood.com
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Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2001 16:37:20 -0400
From: "Fred L. Johnson" <FLJohnson@worldnet.att.net>
Subject: Re: aeration filter
I apologize for the typo in the recent post regarding aeration filters. I
stated 45 microns for the pore size rather than 0.45 microns.
- --
Fred L. Johnson
Apex, North Carolina
USA
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Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2001 15:57:07 -0700
From: Brewer Bob <"bobo99"@notimefor.spambest.com>
Subject: Evaporation Rate
Can someone give me a ballpark evaporation rate for ~ 13 gallons of
sweet liquor using a converted 1/2 bbl keg as a boiler and a 170K BTU
propane burner turned up all the way? Setting up the new system so I
need to know what my initial water requirements will be.
TIA
Brewer Bob
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Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2001 12:02:36 -0500
From: "Marc Morency" <marcmo3@yahoo.com>
Subject: De Wolf Cosyns
We are working very closely with both DeWolf and our new Belgian supplier to
make the switch in suppliers as smooth as possible. We anticipate we will
have an excellent substitute for all of the DeWolf Cosyns products.
Have no fear the Belgian brewing industry (and the North American production
of Belgian Beers) will continue long into the future.
Susan E Graydon
Account Executive
Cargill Malt - Specialty Products Group
www.specialtymalts.com <http://www.specialtymalts.com>
Office: 313-882-5248
Cell:313-300-7052
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Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2001 13:41:06 -0400
From: "Bob Sutton" <Bob@homebrew.com>
Subject: Gas Filtration Supplies/Dishwasher Muck
Fred asked about a source of an appropriate affordable filter for aerating
my worts...
Here's one I've used...
http://www.brewtek.com/aerator.html
Part SP-86 for $3.90
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and the dishwasher thread is back... and I suggest you keep that door
closed. Unless you've dedicated your unit to brewing, it's not all that
clean inside after you've emptied that last load of dishes... visibly clean,
sure, but if you would swab the surfaces, you'd find out differently... And
yes, you just might get away with it... minimal infection... fine taste...
good head...
If you heart is set on using that contrivance, then here's an AR procedure
that might limit your risks.
First, operate the unit empty with detergent loaded. While the cycle is
running, soak your bottles in the cleaner of your choice (I use dishwashing
detergent). Then rinse the bottle internals thoroughly using a bottle-jet
washer. When the dishwasher cycle is complete load (inverted!) the
washed/rinsed bottles and run a full cycle. Don't add detergent. It will
only get trapped in your bottles.
After the dishwasher cycle is complete, you have a couple options... either
run the dishwasher's "heat dry" cycle, or load the washed bottles in your
oven (be sure it's clean... while pizza and beer work well together, charred
remnants of last night's Mexicali Supreme will impart a unique flavor to
your bottles). Set the oven around 300F, and let it run for a few hours, and
let the bottles cool with the oven door closed (overnight cycles work for
me).
Ok, I admitted it's a bit AR - and some will caution about micro-cracks
forming in the heated bottles... it's never been a problem.... aaacccckkk...
what was that.... oh %#@***... gotta run... see ya...
...brewing in upstate South Carolina
Bob
Fruit Fly Brewhaus
Yesterdays' Technology Today
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Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2001 13:34:43 -0500
From: "Keller, Steven W." <KellerS@missouri.edu>
Subject: Brewing equipment
I have been reading with interest and enjoyment the newsletter over the past
several months, and was hoping to get some input on upgrading my "system".
I want to move to a more permanent set-up and get out of the kitchen. With
the praise for Beer, Beer, and More Beer I was reading about their "brewing
sculptures", and would really appreciate input from the list as to the ease
of use, practicality and cost of such systems, either from BBMB or other
retailers. Thanks much!
Brew On!
Steven W. Keller
Associate Professor of Chemistry
125 Chemistry
University of Missouri
Columbia, Missouri 65211
(573)884-6893
http://chem.chem.missouri.edu/
I'd rather be an optimist and a fool, than a pessimist and right."
- from the movie "I.Q."
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Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2001 15:41:27 -0500
From: Jimmy Overcast <malibu76@mindspring.com>
Subject: So Many Beers, So Little Time!
My question to all of you is what would be the best type of beer to
brew, to have ready for Nov , Dec, Winter Time? I have never tried a
Porter, BarleyWine, but I have tried many Stouts. I just want to try
something new , something that I could brew now that will be ready by
the fall or winter. Any suggestions will be greatly appreciated. Also if
anyone has any good recipes, preferably All Grain send them my way.
thanks alot, Jimmy Overcast
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Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2001 22:18:29 -0400
From: "bsmnt" <bsmntbrewr@home.com>
Subject: One heck of a chest freezer conversion
Brewers,
One of our club members was inspired by Dan Shultz's web
site on his chest freezer conversion. You can see Dan's at
the following address. Have to give the idea man his due.
http://www.users.qwest.net/~d2schultz/Freezer.html
Now feast your eyes on this beauty! The pictures on this
page are thumbnails, just click the pics for bigger
versions.
http://hbd.org/starcity/images/box/box.htm
SWMBO told me not to get any ideas after she saw this.
Bob Bratcher
Roanoke, VA
Star City Brewers Guild
http://hbd.org/starcity
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Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2001 20:52:05 -0500
From: "Sean Richens" <srichens@sprint.ca>
Subject: dishwashers
Not all dishwashers have the optional "sanitize" boost heater, but if yours
does, skip the heated dry cycle in favour of a full cycle, without
detergent, in a pre-rinsed machine. Wet bottles are also easier to fill.
Things die much, much faster with WET heat than with dry heat. This is the
first and most important thing to learn about heat sterilization or
sanitization. Moderate dry heat just dries out the bugs, which they're
pretty used to. Wet heat keeps their guts in solution where the heat can
cook them really good.
If you don't have the water heat booster, at least pre-wet your bottles and
run a quick rinse cycle before the heater comes on.
The only drawback to dishwasher sanitizing is that a quick rinse under the
tap doesn't clean a bottle quite as well as a regular splash of alkaline
sanitizer. After a couple of years, you want to give them a good soak.
Sean Richens
srichens.spamsucks@sprint.ca
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End of HOMEBREW Digest #3685, 07/16/01
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