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Subject: Lambic Digest #1010 (January 14, 1997)
Lambic Digest #1010 Tue 14 January 1997
Forum on Lambic Beers (and other Belgian beer styles)
Mike Sharp, Digest Coordinator
Contents:
Re: Rochefort 10 ... (Tom Fitzpatrick)
Re: Orval Hopping (Richard Gardner)
High Prices (Evan Kraus)
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Date: Fri, 10 Jan 1997 14:53:27 -0600 (CST)
From: fitz at fasicsv.fnal.gov (Tom Fitzpatrick)
Subject: Re: Rochefort 10 ...
> Date: Wed, 8 Jan 1997 17:39:00 -0500
> From: fespourteille at mmt.com (Francois Espourteille)
> Subject: Re: Rochefort craze (and rightfully so)
>
>
> I am glad to finally see one of the best Belgian beers, possibly the best
> one, available here, even if it's hard to find. What is a bit unsettling
> is the price, as quoted below:
>
> >Date: Tue, 07 Jan 1997 02:51:29 -0500
> >From: ambroser at apollo.dml.georgetown.edu (Tom Corbett, Space
> >Cadet) Subject: Rochefort 10
> >I picked up Rochefort 10 up at Rick's Wine and Gourmet 703 823 4600
> >Call and see if they still have some. It is $5.99 for 33cl (11.2 oz)
> >11.3% ABV
>
> I just brough a few (well, quite a few...) back from France this past
> week. They were retailing for under 15 Francs a piece, which is just
> under $3; and that in a country where sales taxes (included in this
> price) are around 18%. I have a hard time believing that the
> difference can be attributed solely to shipping costs and import
> duties and would be curious to see what the profit margin is on that
> beer.
>
> Another beer I wouldn't mind seeing here is the big brother of the St.
> Sixtus already available, the St. Bernardus Abt. It's among the most
> massive Belgians I have had.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Francois.
>
>
The import company for Rochefort (B. United, NY) is definitely trying
to make a killing on some of these exotic Belgian beers. I've seen Rochefort 10
and Westmalle Tripel here in the Chicago area for $5.49 to $6.49 a bottle!
While these are beers of great character, are they really worth the price?
I'll grab a bottle of Cantillon or Boon first for a similar price.
Personally, I find the HUGE banana and solvent character of Rochefort 10 a bit
overwhelming.
On one hand I'd like to applaud B. United for bringing us these and other
great beers, but on the other I feel they're pricing themselves out of the market.
Does anyone have a list of B United imports? Or e-mail/web-site?
-Tom
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Date: Fri, 10 Jan 1997 15:06:54 -0600 (CST)
From: Richard Gardner <rgardner at monarch.papillion.ne.us>
Subject: Re: Orval Hopping
At 12:30 AM 1/7/97 -0700, George De Piro wrote:
>
> According to Jackson the Brothers dry hop with Kent Goldings. Knowing
> that he is not always accurate (because the brewers probably don't
> want all of their secrets in print), I was wondering if anybody out
> there in cyberland has any knowledge regarding this.
According to Jackson in "The Great Beers of Belgium" (ISBN 1-900131-35-8)
whole Hallertau-Hersbruck and Styrian Goldings are used, one during the
boil, the other during maturation (doesn't say which is which). It also
says that Kent Goldings have been used in the past for "that finishing
touch," but the present brewmaster prefers Sty Goldings. The dry-hopped
secondary fermentation takes at least 3 weeks.
<<<The secret to life is to die young, but to delay it as long as possible!!!>>>
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Date: Sat, 11 Jan 1997 09:20:09 -0500 (EST)
From: ekraus at ain.bls.com (Evan Kraus)
Subject: High Prices
At the price per bottle of Rochefort quoted I would rather fly to Belgium
and SEE it and DRINK it. If U bought 58.43 bottles U would be spending
the price of a round trip ticket to Belgium. Add the cost of another
bottle and U could have a copy of Stephen D'Arcy's "A Selective Guide
to Brussels Bars". Then all U would need is some spending money a
backpack or Hotel room and your all set.
Check out my home page which shows some Belgian Brewery adventure pictures
It all started because I got a partial coppy of
his guid. Then when I realized I had only the odd pages of the guide
as I sat in a Hotel room in Brussels I called Stephen and the rest is history.
My wife and I had always loved Belgium and after we got the Guide our entry
point to Europe is ALWAYS Belgium.
I have no affiliation to him his GUIDE other than a satisfied user and
friend !!!!!
- --
Evan Kraus
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Voice - Fax Phone
(404) 713-1111
ekraus at ain.bls.com
http://bwiwww.bls.com/~ekraus/
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