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Subject: Lambic Digest #959 (October 08, 1996)
Lambic Digest #959 Tue 08 October 1996
Forum on Lambic Beers (and other Belgian beer styles)
Mike Sharp, Digest Coordinator
Contents:
Accidental subscriptions? (Tom Fitzpatrick)
Errant web page?? (Mike Sharp)
News from V&DW (Ron Raike)
Troy's falling pellicle (isenhour)
Used Barrel Brokers (TAyres)
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Date: Mon, 07 Oct 1996 09:25:53 -0500 (CDT)
From: fitz at fasicsv.fnal.gov (Tom Fitzpatrick)
Subject: Accidental subscriptions?
>
> Date: Sun, 6 Oct 1996 09:50:53 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Matt Olson <molson at teleport.com>
> Subject: Re: Lambic Digest #955 (October 04, 1996)
>
> Please remove me from all of your mailing lists. I don't know how I got on
> your list, but, if I don't receive some sort of RSVP then I've got about
> 12,000 listserv sites I can add your server to (scripts are handy). Sorry
> about the hostile tone, I just want off your list.
>
> Thank you for your attension in this matter.
>
> Matt Olson
>
> molson at teleport.com
So, you want to threaten a bunch of mad lambic brewer's, eh?
TOLSTOY HIM!!! There, I feel better ...
Mike,
There has to be some mechanism (some web links maybe?) that is
automatically subscribing people who are surfing ... Anyone out there
have any ideas about how this could be happening and how to prevent it?
It seems to be about 50% of the bandwidth lately ...
-Tom
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Date: Mon, 7 Oct 96 12:58:39 PDT
From: msharp at synopsys.com (Mike Sharp)
Subject: Errant web page??
Today I received some private e-mail raising the issue of all the
unsubscribe requests, especially the one threatening to subscribe the
list to every other list in existence. This e-mail brought up a point
I wanted to share:
Is it somehow easy to get accidentally subscribed to this digest?
I'm begining to suspect there may be an errant web page somewhere.
Have any of you ever seen a web page that allows one to send a subscribe
message to the digest? (please send private e-mail if you have)
I'm suspect this is the cause of our problems because for the
past few months I've been receiving a lot of zero length messages that
I've been taking as subscription requests. These may very well be the
result of a "quit" button that sends a blank message instead of aborting,
or it may just be that there are a lot of clueless web-surfers who can't
read directions....
To address this issue: (sorry to shout, but I want this to stand out)
FOR THE TIME BEING I'M GOING TO IGNORE ALL MESSAGES WHICH DO NOT EXPLICITLY
SAY SOMETHING LIKE SUBSCRIBE/UNSUBSCRIBE, or were obviously written by a
human (-8 or engineer 8-).
--Mike
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Date: Mon, 07 Oct 1996 16:47:38 -0400
From: Ron Raike <ron at mail.creol.ucf.edu>
Subject: News from V&DW
Got the following from a friend in the business - sorry if its old
news - scanned it in.......
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The first brewer in America (aboard the Mayflower) was a Belgian
-recruited by the British to ensure vital supply of good beer. Now,
387 years later, Belgian brewing prowess is coming back.
Wendy Littlefield and Donald Feinberg, co -owners of Vanberg
& DeWulf, America's leading importer of specialty beers from
Belgium, announce the construction of a farmstead brewery for
the production of traditional Belgian beers in America.
"Since 1982, Vanberg & DeWulf has promoted the delights
of traditional Belgian ales. Now, in concert with the proprietors
of two of Belgium's leading independents, they have embarked
on a joint brewing venture. Partners include Michel Moortgat,
President of The Moortgat Brewery (makers of Duvel), Theo
Vervloet, Brewer at DeSmedt (makers of Affligem), and Ben
Gevaert, an independent brewing consultant and former
Managing Director at Moortgat. The brewer is a Belgian
native and graduate of Louvain's Institute of Brewing
Studies. He will be arriving this winter, and the first beers
are expected to be ready in late spring. All the beers will
be bottle -conditioned in the traditional Belgian manner.
The siting of the brewery at Cooperstown is particularly
appropriate. The area has both a hops history and a Belgic
connection. Otsego County was the center of hops growing
in America between 1835 and 1880 -accounting at one
time for as much as 80% of all the hops grown in America.
The Belgic connection dates from 1614 when a navigator
named Kleynties on Henry Hudson's Dutch East India
Company expedition mapped Otsego Eke and the
Susquehanna River for the first time.
The brewery itself sits on the site of a former hops
farm and borders the Suquehanna River. Hop yards and
kilns were so plentiful in the area that it was known
as "Hop City".
The brewery building recalls farmhouse breweries of
Belgium in the last century. In Belgium, farmers were
the original brewers, growing their own barley and
hops. This relationship to the land has been largely lost.
By selecting a rural site and building in a manner
consistent with farmstead brewery architectural
traditions, Feinberg & Littlefield hope to re-emphasize
this connection, and add a level of historical enjoyment
to the delicious Belgian style ales they will be brewing.
For further information call: Vanberg & DeWulf
-"The experts in Belgian Beer since I982" -
52 Pioneer Street, Cooperstown, New York
800 -656 -1212 fax 1 -607 -547 -8374
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Ron Raike - CREOL/UCF
Facilities/Safety - Head Brewer
ron at mail.creol.ucf.edu
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Date: Mon, 7 Oct 1996 17:10:20 -0500 (CDT)
From: isenhour at uiuc.edu
Subject: Troy's falling pellicle
Troy Jesse <tjesse at students.uiuc.edu>
> Subject: My pellicle has fallen
>
> Hi All,
>
> I am pretty new to plambic brewing, so I thought I might pick your minds.
> My first plambic just turned 6 months old. It has a really nice pellicle,
> now it has disappeared. I have my brew in a 6 gallon plastic bucket and
> I've tried both airlocks and a sterile cotton bung in the lid. Should I
> repitch another culture, or will it reappear in time?
I've had em breakup and fall to the bottom. This seems to be co-incident
with ones that form early and *may* not be the same critter as the one that
tends to develop after many months. Try a sample! My current kreik
style pellicles have settled but the flavor profiles are quite nice (if
ya like hard lambics).
-john
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Date: Mon, 7 Oct 1996 18:43:27 -0400
From: TAyres at aol.com
Subject: Used Barrel Brokers
Nick, if you would post the address/phone numbers of brokers of used oak
barrels, I'm sure many Lambic Digest regulars would be appreciative. The
posting would, of course, not imply any commercial endorsement. Thanks!
Tom Ayres
TAyres at aol.com
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