Lambic Digest #0831

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Lambic Digest #831                             Sat 20 April 1996 

 

 
        Forum on Lambic Beers (and other Belgian beer styles) 
                Mike Sharp, Digest Coordinator 

 

 
Contents: 
  When is Brett added to Orval?? (STROUDS) 

 

 
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Date: Fri, 19 Apr 1996 10:51:14 -0400 (EDT) 
From: STROUDS at cliffy.polaroid.com 
Subject: When is Brett added to Orval?? 

 
Hi all, 

 
About a month ago, Paul Edwards led an interesting dicussion on Orval.  Paul  
indicated that, according to information he received at the brewery, Orval 
pitches one yeast strain for the primary (open fermentation in climate 
controlled rooms for one week), a blend of "several" strains in the secondary 
(closed fermentation in 100 hectoliter tanks for three weeks), and then adds 
more of the primary strain at bottling along with liquid candi sugar.  
The implication here was that the Brett went into the secondary and that a  
strain of S.c. was the primary/bottling strain. 

 
This is in conflict with Michael Jackson's writings which state that Orval is  
_bottled_ with 5 strains, [of which it is implied that at least one is a strain 
of Brett]. 

 
I'd like to add two bits of information to the discussion which suggest that  
there is a Belgian waffle going on and that perhaps Jackson is right after all: 

 
1)  At the SOB conference in 1994, Phillippe Perpete, in his presentation, 
explicitly said that Brett went into Orval at bottling, along with a S.c.  This  
is according to both Spencer Thomas and Tim Dalton. 

 
2)  A couple of years ago, Pat Baker related an interesting Orval experience to  
me:  He visited Orval and bought a fresh case of their beer.   On the day the 
beer was bought, it possessed none of the typical Brett aromas or flavors, 
instead tasting more like an aromatic, dry hopped Belgian pale ale.  However, 
over a couple of weeks time, Pat continued sampling bottles and found that the 
Brett character noticeable, then more and more intense.  [this story 
would lend credence to the 'Brett at bottling' theory] 

 

 
Comments? 

 
Steve Stroud 

 

 

 
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