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Subject: Lambic Digest #819 (March 20, 1996)
Lambic Digest #819 Wed 20 March 1996
Forum on Lambic Beers (and other Belgian beer styles)
Mike Sharp, Digest Coordinator
Contents:
more info, DeDolle (Todd Gierman)
Cork in bottle (Kyle R Roberson)
Re: DeDolle yeast (Stephen A. George)
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Date: Tue, 19 Mar 1996 06:58:15 -0500 (EST)
From: Todd Gierman <tmgierma at acpub.duke.edu>
Subject: more info, DeDolle
Russel asks for more info on the DeDolle line. I don't have much more to
offer, except:
Lichtervelds Blond 8% abv (****) Strong golden "The Mad Brewers attempt
at a Duvel-style beer.
Vlotbier 6.9% abv (****) Pale Ale "Cloudy, honeyed, spiced, straw
coloured ale"
Regarding DeDolle and Rodenbach culture: I would not have guessed that
the DeDolle yeast was anything but a deliberate mix of "pure" cultures.
Perhaps the Rodenbach mix is not as complex as it is claimed. Also,
Oerbier here is sometimes sour and sometimes not, but always has a
full-bodied sweetnes (at least what I have had).
In addition to a change in Orval, has anyone noticed a change in Chimay?
I can't speak directly of change, but the first and last bottle of Grand
Reserve that I have had (bottled in Nov. 94) was terrible. Thin, dry and
astringent - very much like the Cinq Cents. Not at all what I had
expected. I did hear a rumor that they changed yeast cultures along the
way - so much for progress.
Todd
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Date: Tue, 19 Mar 1996 11:36:08 -0800 (PST)
From: Kyle R Roberson <roberson at beta.tricity.wsu.edu>
Subject: Cork in bottle
Ok, I've been to Anderlecht and spoken to the van Roys, taken the tour,
etc. However, I forgot to ask what purpose the cork in the bottle under
the cap serves. Does it spend time corked, but not capped? Anybody know?
Private email OK.
Kyle
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Date: Tue, 19 Mar 1996 21:39:33 -0600
From: sageorge at popmail.mcs.com (Stephen A. George)
Subject: Re: DeDolle yeast
>
>Date: 18 Mar 96 09:37:32 +0200
>From: "Likovuori Kari" <Kari.Likovuori at pt2.tempo.mol.fi>
>Subject: DeDolle yeast
>I have been told by a good belgian friend of mine that De Dolle Brouwers get
>their yeast from Rodenbach. I'm willing to believe that; take a sip of Oerbier
>and think the similarities in flavour.
Recently, I bought a few pricey bottles of different DDB beers (Oerbier,
Boskeun, and Stille Nacht, presumably of recent vintage, purchased at
Binny's in suburban Chicago) to remind me of the "old days" in Belgium, and
I thought *exactly* the same thing - Rodenbach. Only that's not at all how
I remembered the DDB beers in Belgium. It was almost (dare I say it) like
someone pulled a switcharoo.
Chastened by the surprising difference, I decided that maybe DDB beers were
better enjoyed closer to the source, where they are relatively cheaper and
more interesting.
Anyhow, saving my pennies (save for these 2), drinking homebrew and still
dreaming about that last Dulle Teve in Bruges...
Steve
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