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Subject: Lambic Digest #771 (January 27, 1996)
Lambic Digest #771 Sat 27 January 1996
Forum on Lambic Beers (and other Belgian beer styles)
Mike Sharp, Digest Coordinator
Contents:
Affligem Holiday (ptimmerm)
Cantillon (Algis R Korzonas)
10 month old plambic (Jeremy Ballard Bergsman)
Re: Liefman's Holiday Ale? (Sergio Escorza-Trevino)
Lambic Digest #770 (January 26, 1996) (wyatt)
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Date: Fri, 26 Jan 1996 08:10:35 -0800
From: ptimmerm at mashtun.JPL.NASA.GOV
Subject: Affligem Holiday
I was very disappointed in the Affligem Holiday
last year, which hurts when you pay $15.00 a
bottle or whatever they were charging. Seemed
like there was an oxidation problem with it.
Has it improved?
paul timmerman
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Date: Fri, 26 Jan 96 12:17:52 CST
From: korz at pubs.ih.att.com (Algis R Korzonas)
Subject: Cantillon
Cantillon has appeared in the midwest. Mainstreet Deli and Liquors has
it and they do ship mailorder. You can call them at 708-354-0355 and
yes they take credit cards. They have a pretty wide variety of Belgian
beers so you may want to ask for more than just Cantillon, Boon, Rodenbach,
Westmalle, etc.
I have no commercial interest in the beer side of Mainstreet's affairs
other than wanting them to continue to carry a wide variety of beers.
Al.
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Date: Fri, 26 Jan 1996 10:29:43 -0800 (PST)
From: Jeremy Ballard Bergsman <jeremybb at leland.Stanford.EDU>
Subject: 10 month old plambic
My first plambic is about 10 months old now. I am getting ready to
taste it again. At the last sampling (~8 months) it was quite (too?)
sour, still bitter, slightly estery, and had a complex, caramel/sweet
flavor over a dry background. While it had a nice Brett aroma, this
was weak and didn't make it to the flavor. This seems to me to be the
main flaw of plambics I have had.
Anyway, this time I am going to do a cell count for Brett and I just
wanted some opinions of what kind of number I should be looking for
before I decide I have to re-inoculate. Where do you take your
sample (bulk solution, surface, trub)?
Additional data: this is 17 gallons in a 31 gallon HDPE barrel. I
have no pellicle but last time I looked there were a few ~1"
"colonies" floating around.
Jeremy Bergsman
jeremybb at leland.stanford.edu
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Date: Fri, 26 Jan 1996 14:00:04 -0800 (PST)
From: Sergio Escorza-Trevino <sescorza at sdcc3.ucsd.edu>
Subject: Re: Liefman's Holiday Ale?
Scott says:
>
>I picked up a bottle last night at Total Beverage for $11. The
>label says that it is a a cherry ale with a blend of spices, but
>I have yet to try it. Has anyone here tasted it? There are plenty
>more in stock, as well as the Affligem and Binchoise holiday beers.
Yes, I've tasted several of them. I first saw this beer at the Liefmans'
brewery last month, and was I surprised!. When they saw the look in my eyes,
I was presented w/ a complimentary bottle, and then got some more to take w/
me. It's called ghlukriek (sp?), and it's a spiced cherry beer, to be
consumed at ...70 degrees Celsius!!!. Yes, that's right. Hot, steaming beer.
The truth is that's much better this way than at reg temp (their description
was: "don't even think of drinking it cool. It will be horrible. Heat it
first"). The truth is that, although nice, it's kindda cloying when drunk
cool. But when warm...mmmhhh, yummy, yummy. Really nice. I don't have my
notes w/ me right now, but it's interesting to try writing them down while
quaffing a beer from which steam is rising...do it!!. (this beer is
mentioned in the last issue of the malt advocate).
By the way, Liefmans has also another new beer, very far appart from their
traditional styles. I'd call it a strong belgian ale, golden pale in color.
Again, I don't have my notes, but I recall a nice beady head, strong body,
hints of coriander and orange, and a warm finish...well worth to drink it.
The name is "San van Ghent", which translates as "Swan from Ghent".
Sergio.
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Date: Fri, 26 Jan 96 15:44:04 pst
From: wyatt at Latitude.COM
Subject: Lambic Digest #770 (January 26, 1996)
Scott posted:
>Date: Thu, 25 Jan 1996 11:07:59 -0500 (EST)
>From: Scott Bickham bickham at dave.nrl.navy.mil>
>Subject: Liefman's Holiday Ale?
>I picked up a bottle last night at Total Beverage for $11. The
>label says that it is a a cherry ale with a blend of spices, but I
>have yet to try it. Has anyone here tasted it? There are plenty
>more in stock, as well as the Affligem and Binchoise holiday
>beers. I also noticed that Cantillon is back after a brief absence,
>along with an assortment of those bastardized fruit lambics from De
>Troch.
>Scott
Geez, I'm jealous, why don't we get Cantillion here on the west
coast? The Liefmans sounds like it would be pretty good. The others I
can get around here. By the way I tried Scaldis Noel the other day and
it was GREAT. The label said it was like the regular Scaldis, a
little sweeter but I think they were being too modest. I drank it
with a friend who I also served some Rodenbach Grand Cru. She didn't
like that at all so I drank hers. Later she changed her mind but it
was too late cause I wasn't about to waste good beer like that.
cheers
Wyatt
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