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Subject: Lambic Digest #622 (June 10, 1995)
Lambic Digest #622 Sat 10 June 1995
Forum on Lambic Beers (and other Belgian beer styles)
Mike Sharp, Digest Coordinator
Contents:
Interbrew & OBP (Ton van Opstal)
Belgian/Dutch beer publications (Todd Gierman)
E150 ("Paul Jasper")
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Date: Fri, 9 Jun 95 10:24:49 +0200
From: etmtvop at crosby.etm.ericsson.se (Ton van Opstal)
Subject: Interbrew & OBP
Marc de Jonge writes:
> Interbrew owns the following Belgian breweries/brands (the list is
> not complete, I just typed in the more interesting names from
> Peter Crombecq's guide):
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> <breweries removed>
Furthermore Interbrew owns the following Dutch Breweries:
- Dommelsche Bierbrouwerij, Dommelen
pilsener, oud bruin, bokbier, jubilator, malt
Not very interesting beers.
- Oranjeboom Bierbrouwerij, Breda
pilsener, oud bruin, herfstbock, lentebock, malt
Brews a major part for the export (3Horses, ...).
- Arcense Bierbrouwerij, Arcen
grand prestige, dubbel, tripel, meibock, bockbier, elfde gebod, witte
raaf (Brouwerij Raaf is closed!!), oud limburgs, altforster alt, ....
Great Beers!! Visit the "proeflokaal" nearby the brewery.
Just this week I received the magazine of the OBP (Objectieve Bier Proevers),
the Belgium equivalent of PINT. A beerconsumers club. In it they state they
should be at the WWW per 1 june (http://www.dma.be/bier.html). I didn't
succeed in reaching the www-server :-(. Does anyone know more? The OBP is
very much concerned with lambic.
Ton van Opstal
Dutch beerlover (and beer-writer)
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Date: Fri, 9 Jun 1995 10:26:32 -0400 (EDT)
From: Todd Gierman <tmgierma at acpub.duke.edu>
Subject: Belgian/Dutch beer publications
Could somebody post a brief bibliography of beer publications that are
available in the Belgian/Dutch market. I've seen "beer yearbooks"
referred to from time to time and also some others. I am interested in
knowing which are the most informative and where they might be obtained
(that is what bookstores). They don't need to be in English, I can
navigate written Dutch/Flemish at a rudementary level (pictures help though).
TIA,
Todd
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Date: Fri, 9 Jun 1995 11:13:58 -0700
From: "Paul Jasper" <paul at ide.com>
Subject: E150
Someone was asking about E150 a few days ago. I thought I recognized
the number, but wanted to check before posting a reply - hence the delay.
E150 is "Caramel Color", not the regular burnt sugar variety of caramel,
but made by a chemical process, such as the effect of ammonia on
industrial sugars like glucose or invert sugar. There are several types,
depending on the method use to make them, and they come in different
color concentrations. They mostly have a bitter, burnt sugar taste,
but don't usually affect the flavor of the products they're coloring,
due to the small quantities used.
This is the same caramel color listed in the ingredients on a can of Coke.
They are commonly used in brewing to adjust the color of the beer and are
non-fermentable. I don't think E150 alone is responsible for the wide
variety of beers available in Belgium, certainly not those from quality
breweries, anyway.
In Europe, all artificial additives must be listed in the ingredients by
their approved E-numbers, similar to how colors are numbered in the USA.
Hmm... I wonder how many of the American red beers currently in vogue with
big brewery marketing departments are the result of adding red #9 to their
regular brews?
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