Lambic Digest #0647

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Subject: Lambic Digest #647 (July 18, 1995) 

 

 

 
Lambic Digest #647                             Tue 18 July 1995 

 

 
        Forum on Lambic Beers (and other Belgian beer styles) 
                Mike Sharp, Digest Coordinator 

 

 
Contents: 
  what's on a cork? (Todd Gierman) 

 

 
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Date: Mon, 17 Jul 1995 16:03:02 -0700 (PDT) 
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Date: Mon, 17 Jul 1995 22:24:12 -0400 (EDT) 
From: Todd Gierman <tmgierma at acpub.duke.edu> 
Subject: what's on a cork? 

 

 
Does Cantillon do a bottling specifically for the American/Canadian  
market?  I ask, because I noticed on the cork of a recent bottle of  
gueuze the words:  "Bottled in Nov. 1993" 

 
Why print it in English?  Is it similar to the "Made in Country X"  label? 

 
I should note for the record that this gueuze was far mellower than  
expected.  It had only a subtle hint of acidity.  Although on the thin  
side, it had a faint residual sweetness (not much though).  The Brett  
character was definitely, shall we say, "gastro-intestinal" in nature.   
Definitely lower GI.  After a few minutes of airing, the aroma mellowed  
and the flavors mingled...This was closer in overall character to the  
Boon MP gueuze than I would have anticipated.  Both are softer than the  
typical Boon gueuze.  I think that both the Boon MP gueuze and this  
Cantillon gueuze were abit lacking when it came to overall complexity. 

 
I've also recently had Belle Vue Kriek and Timmermans Kriek.  Both sort  
of come up short in the lambic arena.  Belle Vue had some faint vestiges  
of lambic character, but its sweetness and fruitiness were far too  
conspicuous.  Timmermans had more lambic character, but it too was overly  
sweet.  I did notice some acetic notes in it however.  There was some  
Brett character, but it seemed somewhat "tinny" as well. 

 
Getting back to competition standards:  I don't think any of these  
examples would serve well as standards.  I still think that Timmermans  
gueuze is a reasonable standard.  At least some of the Timmermans gueuze  
that I have had could easily be called a "consensus lambic" in that it  
had good levels of acidity (lactic) and "horse-blanket" character. 

 
Also, when I said previously that producing a sweetened lambic would be a  
"technical achievement", I didn't mean that BelleVue-type p-lambics were  
the goal.  No.  Such  a p-lambic should impress any judge as a failed  
attempt only.  However, a nicely acidic and "horsey/glandular/feral"  
p-lambic  with a dose of sugar for balance might be nice (can you say   
"Boon MP '86 Framboise"?). 

 
Okay, I think that that's enough "vocabulary" for one day.  Class dismissed. 

 
Todd 

 
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