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Subject: Lambic Digest #517 (December 31, 1994)
Date: Sat, 31 Dec 1994 00:30:08 -0700
Lambic Digest #517 Sat 31 December 1994
Forum on Lambic Beers (and other Belgian beer styles)
Mike Sharp, Digest Coordinator
Contents:
Equine Inequality (Ed Westemeier)
Re: horse sweat and beer (Todd Gierman)
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Date: Fri, 30 Dec 1994 09:39:24 +0500
From: ed.westemeier at sdrc.com (Ed Westemeier)
Subject: Equine Inequality
Dan McConnell wrote:
> THIS IS NO WAY SIMILAR TO HORSE OR HORSE
> SWEAT, PERIOD.
> Use a new term.
No, no, no, Dan; you're generalizing here.
Obviously, you were involved in an encounter with American
horses, perhaps even the (ugh, common) quarter horse.
Quarter horses are so named because they produce only 25% of
the expected level of volatiles found in real lambics of the
Senne valley, and other U.S. breeds are not that much better.
Now go back and open a bottle of Boon or Cantillon gueuze.
What you'll experience is pure essence of Belgian draft horse
sweat. These powerful animals possess unique sweat glands,
producing such enormous quantities of gueuziness (almost _sounds_
like "horsiness" doesn't it? That's a clue!) that it was the
most natural descriptive term for the Belgians to use in
describing the activity of one of their favorite yeasts.
Lippizaner stallions are a similar breed, and are often mistakenly
described as the source of the aroma characteristic of the
distinctive "Wienerwater" brews, but traditional Austrian beers
are so hard to find in this country that I wouldn't expect you to
be familiar with them.
One final thought:
Doesn't it give you pause to consider what fiendish experiments
the Anheuser-Busch people may be conducting on those Clydesdales
out in the St. Louis suburbs?
Ed Westemeier
Cincinnati, Ohio
hopfen at iac.net
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Date: Fri, 30 Dec 1994 13:00:17 -0500 (EST)
From: Todd Gierman <tmgierma at acpub.duke.edu>
Subject: Re: horse sweat and beer
On 29 Dec 1994, Daniel F McConnell wrote:
> Date: 29 Dec 1994 18:20:48 -0500
> From: Daniel F McConnell <Daniel.F.McConnell at med.umich.edu>
> To: lambic digest <lambic at longs.lance.colostate.edu>,
> Todd Gierman <tmgierma at acpub.duke.edu>
> Subject: horse sweat and beer
>
> Subject: horse sweat and beer
>
>
> Last weekend it was in the 50's (low teens in real temperature) here
> in Michigan. Quite extraordinary, BTW! I was at my sister's house on
> Christmas Eve day and we took the horses out for a little exercise. It
> is unclear to me whether we took them for a run or they took us for a
> run, but they were VERY, VERY happy to gallop. Needless to say when
> we got back I got a real snoot-full of real horse sweat.
>
> Two days later I racked and blended 10 gal of pGueuse, 15 gal of pPeche
> and 5 gal of pKriek. I got a real snoot-full of these too (especially when
> cleaning the barrels). THIS IS NO WAY SIMILAR TO HORSE OR HORSE
> SWEAT, PERIOD.
>
> Use a new term.
Does this mean that "feral" is in? BTW, that's alot of p-lambic. Your
set up must be far more elaborate than you let on. Do you have a
centrifuge in your basement in addition to the autoclave? How about a hot
water and chains washing system for your barrels? :-)
Todd
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