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Subject: Lambic Digest #437 (September 07, 1994)
Date: Wed, 7 Sep 1994 12:04:19 -0600
Lambic Digest #437 Wed 07 September 1994
Forum on Lambic Beers (and other Belgian beer styles)
Mike Sharp, Digest Coordinator
Contents:
Re: Lambic Digest #436 (September 02, 1994) (John Lenz)jel3 at cornell.edu
Re: Lambic Digest #436 (September 02, 1994) ("Phillip Seitz")
Boon, Lindeman, or Liefman? ("Manning Martin MP")
Lambic Digest #436 (Bob_MacWilliams.LOTUS)
In search of Rodenbach grand cru (Jay Hersh)
Re: Lambic Digest #435 (September 01, 1994) (ptimmerm)
Re: Lambic Digest #436 (September 02, 1994) (ptimmerm)
Lambic Digest #436 (Michael Sharp)
Lambic Digest #436
Chapeau Gueuze ("Andrew R. Ruggles")
chapeau lambic ("Andrew R. Ruggles")
Lactic acid in beer *HELP*HELP*HELP* (Brian A Nummer)
Chapeau Gueuze ("Andrew R. Ruggles")
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Date: Fri, 2 Sep 1994 09:32:13 -0400
From: (John Lenz)jel3 at cornell.edu
Subject: Re: Lambic Digest #436 (September 02, 1994)
Efrain wrote of his dilemma in only being able to carry one line of
lambics. Seems to me that the solution is actually quite simple.
Carry the Boon line, then add the Liefman's line of Oud Bruins.
Op uw gezondheid,
John
P.S. Has anyone successfully retrieved Phil's excellent Belgian ale
series? I've tried, but have been unsuccessful, can anyone help me
out?
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Date: Fri, 02 Sep 94 09:11:38 -0400
From: "Phillip Seitz" <p00644 at psilink.com>
Subject: Re: Lambic Digest #436 (September 02, 1994)
Efrain asks:
> I have just been started a job as a beer buyer for a grocery store, and I
>would like your opinions. I can only carry one line of lambics due to limited
>shelf/cooler space. Should I carry Boon, Lindeman, or Liefman products? I
>would like to carry them all, but this isn't possible. Please let me know
>what you think.
Other people may shoot me for this, but if I were in your position I'd
DEFINITELY go with the Lindemans (unless, of course, you're Mike
Sharp's local grocery store). The reason is simple: Lindeman's is
vastly more approachable for most people, and their peach beer is the
only brau I've ever found that EVERYBODY likes. Your audience will be
much larger if you stock something that's easier to get to know, and
you'll be spreading the good word. For most people the idea of a beer
with fruit in it is radical enough.
Remember, don't sell what you want to sell, sell what your customers
want to buy. You'd already be making a stretch to carry a beer like
this and will need to get people to try it. You'll get repeat sales
with Lindeman's, and some of those people may move on to the hard
stuff. But if you start them off with the hard stuff they'll just
think you're crazy.
Ok, so shoot me.
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Date: 2 Sep 1994 09:41:12 U
From: "Manning Martin MP" <manning_martin_mp at mcst.ae.ge.com>
Subject: Boon, Lindeman, or Liefman?
Re: Boon, Lindeman, or Liefman (EfrainM)
I'm sure the first choice among enthusiasts will be the Boon line. However,
When talking with retailers in my area I gather that most of the sales of
these types of products is to people who want the sweeter, more intensely
fruity character of the Lindeman's products, many of whom are women. Until
the Boon's came along, the slightly better examples were from Timmerman's, as
they were not quite so sweet. Practical considerations (like making a profit)
could make the choice for you. A good strategy might be to start out with the
Lindemans, to get people interested, and gradually move toward the real
thing.
Liefmans is not a Lambic, rather a sour brown ale, some of which have fruit
added. The fruit character is not intense, but they are delightful beers. The
retailer in my neighbor hood carries these, but he says that they are not as
popular as Lindemans.
MPM
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Date: Fri, 2 Sep 94 10:47:29 EDT
From: Bob_MacWilliams.LOTUS at CRD.lotus.com
Subject: Lambic Digest #436
- -- I have just been started a job as a beer buyer for a grocery store, and I
- --would like your opinions. I can only carry one line of lambics due to limited
- --shelf/cooler space. Should I carry Boon, Lindeman, or Liefman products?
Personally, I vote for Boon. I'm fond of the Lindeman Kriek, but the Boon
styles, especially the Gueuze, are exceptional. However, I've noticed more
stores seem to carry Lindeman or Liefman, I'm not sure why - maybe the sweeter
styles have more mass appeal? If I walk into your store, I want to see the
Boon.
Bob Mac
BOB_MACWILLIAMS at crd.lotus.com
(Sorry I originally replied to the admin address! =:-O Won't happen again!! )
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Date: Fri, 02 Sep 1994 11:03:44 EDT
From: Jay Hersh <hersh at x.org>
Subject: In search of Rodenbach grand cru
good news and bad news:
went to the local good beer store yesterday. The good news is the new batch of
Rodenbach is on the shelves and now it is properly labeled, i.e. it no longer
bears the grand cru labeling (well one stray four pack of the mislabeled stuff
was still around). The bad news is they did not have the real grand cru and it
wasn't listed in the books they order from which they indicated means it's not
yet available.
Jay
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Date: Fri, 2 Sep 94 08:41:58 PDT
From: ptimmerm at mashtun.JPL.NASA.GOV
Subject: Re: Lambic Digest #435 (September 01, 1994)
Mike asks,
>Can anyone pleeeez, recommend several must-try Belgian beers that aren't
>available here that she could bring back for poor old me?
How about Giardin Gueuze and Grimbergen Optimo Bruno (Brown Tripple?) - YUM!
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Date: Fri, 2 Sep 94 08:59:43 PDT
From: ptimmerm at mashtun.JPL.NASA.GOV
Subject: Re: Lambic Digest #436 (September 02, 1994)
>I have just been started a job as a beer buyer for a grocery store, and I
>would like your opinions. I can only carry one line of lambics due to limited
>shelf/cooler space. Should I carry Boon, Lindeman, or Liefman products? I
>would like to carry them all, but this isn't possible. Please let me know
>what you think.
Well if I had to cater to people who don't really like lambic, but enjoy
sweet beers, lindemans would be my first choice. If I had an educated,
lambic loving audience, Boon makes nicer, drier lambics. As for
liefmans, it isn't a lambic, it's a Flanders Brown. 2 out of 3?!? TOUGH!
Most of the Liefmans products are sweet and sour, and are a more advanced
level of aquired taste. I say the first two, although I personally don't
like Lindemans.
p- People Don't Pay for My Opinion, I always Give It for Free :-)
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Date: Fri, 2 Sep 94 09:35:19 PDT
From: msharp at Synopsys.COM (Michael Sharp)
Subject: Lambic Digest #436
HI,
This got sent to the request address by mistake. I'm just forwarding it.
--Mike
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From: Bob_MacWilliams.LOTUS at CRD.lotus.com
Date: Fri, 2 Sep 94 10:05:39 EDT
To: UNIXML.dnet!"LAMBIC-REQUEST at LONGS.LANCE.COLOSTATE.EDU" at lotus.com
Subject: Lambic Digest #436
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- -- I have just been started a job as a beer buyer for a grocery store, and I
- --would like your opinions. I can only carry one line of lambics due to limited
- --shelf/cooler space. Should I carry Boon, Lindeman, or Liefman products?
Personally, I vote for Boon. I'm fond of the Lindeman Kriek, but the Boon
styles, especially the Gueuze, are exceptional. However, I've noticed more
stores seem to carry Lindeman or Liefman, I'm not sure why - maybe the sweeter
styles have more mass appeal? If I walk into your store, I want to see the
Boon.
Bob Mac
BOB_MACWILLIAMS at crd.lotus.com
- ----- End Included Message -----
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Date: Fri, 2 Sep 94 22:40:32 -0500
From: "Andrew R. Ruggles" <rugg0002 at gold.tc.umn.edu>
Subject: Chapeau Gueuze
Hi, folks!
I just went to the liquor store and saw a new lambic (to me, at least). Chapeau
Gueuze. I checked my library of LD's and only came up with prices from Stephen
George. As far as the sensory profile went, the conclusion among my friends I
shared this was...sweet apple cider. That about hits it on the head. As my old
roommate just yelled across the room, "no complexity, Andrew." If anybody else
has had a good bottle of this, I'd like to know. Otherwise, I think I'll pass
on the Banana version. Good thing this only cost $3.59 for 375ml.
Cheers,
Andrew
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Date: Mon, 5 Sep 94 00:36:48 -0500
From: "Andrew R. Ruggles" <rugg0002 at gold.tc.umn.edu>
Subject: chapeau lambic
I tried to send this Friday evening and I haven't seen it posted yet so here
goes again....
I hope you won't mind if you see it twice.
Cheers,
Andrew
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Date: Tue, 06 Sep 1994 15:05:29 -0500 (CDT)
From: Brian A Nummer <BAN5845 at tntech.edu>
Subject: Lactic acid in beer *HELP*HELP*HELP*
This is a second request. Apparently everyone is busy out there.
I am looking for sources of the amount of lactic acid in beer styles and
beer brands, ie. lambics, wits, flanders, Berliners, etc.
In lieu of sources can someone give me a name or e-mail address of of
someone to contact at a belgian Brewing school?
TIA
Dr. Brian Nummer
BAN5845 at TnTech.edu
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Date: Wed, 7 Sep 94 10:08:29 -0500
From: "Andrew R. Ruggles" <rugg0002 at gold.tc.umn.edu>
Subject: Chapeau Gueuze
(Mike, hopefully this will not be "some magic Mac representation")
Hi, folks!
I just went to the liquor store and saw a new lambic (to me, at least). Chapeau
Gueuze. I checked my library of LD's and only came up with prices from Stephen
George. As far as the sensory profile went, the conclusion among my friends I
shared this was...sweet apple cider. That about hits it on the head. As my old
roommate just yelled across the room, "no complexity, Andrew." If anybody else
has had a good bottle of this, I'd like to know. Otherwise, I think I'll pass
on the Banana version. Good thing this only cost $3.59 for 375ml.
Cheers,
Andrew
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