Lambic Digest #0386

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Lambic Digest #386                             Mon 04 July 1994 

 

 
        Forum on Lambic Beers (and other Belgian beer styles) 
                Mike Sharp, Digest Coordinator 

 

 
Contents: 
  For Tasters and Microbiologists (Michael Ligas) 

 

 
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Date: Sun, 3 Jul 1994 22:52:15 -0400 (EDT) 
From: Michael Ligas <ligas at mcmail.cis.mcmaster.ca> 
Subject: For Tasters and Microbiologists 

 
A friend (now an absolute best friend) recently returned from a 
visit to the Netherlands where he picked up a veritable cornucopia 
of beers, many of which I had requested. We are planning to have a 
few other folks over for tasting/eating sessions and I wish to make 
the most of it by carefully matching beers to the menu. To that 
extent I want to make sure that I have a preliminary description of 
the beers from our cache that I haven't yet tasted. I'm counting on 
you guys. Also, a number of the bottles have a healthy sediment so 
I will do extensive microbiological work on them with the hopes of 
isolating any worthwhile yeast and bacteria. Therefore, I hope to 
draw on the experience of those of you who may have already looked 
at the dregs from those beers so I can go into the isolation 
procedures with a bit of knowledge. 

 
Here's the list. I am only including specific notes on those beers 
that I haven't tried yet or haven't cultured from yet. 

 
Timmerman's - Peche (sediment) 
            - can I expect to retrieve Bretts., pedios., etc? 

 
Belle-Vue - Gueuze 
Belle-Vue - Kriek 
Belle-Vue - Framboise 

 
Hoegaarden - Witbier (sediment) 
           - I already have the yeast strain, but this time I'll   
             try for lactobacillus. Is it worth the attempt? 
Hoegaarden - Grand Cru Tripel (sediment) 
           - how many yeast strains expected? 
Hoegaarden - De Verboden Vrucht (sediment) 
           - how many yeast strains expected? Also, will the yeast  
             be the same as that found in the above Tripel? 

 
De Koninck 

 
Abbay de Leffe - Blond 
               - is this what the AHA describes as a 'Belgian Ale'. 
Abbay de Leffe - Brune 6 
               - is this a Flanders style brown ale? 
Abbay de Leffe - Radieuse 
               - style? 
Abbay de Leffe - Tripel (sediment) 
               - yeast(s)? 

 
Hertog Jan - Grand Prestige (Neerlands Zwaarste Bier) (sediment) 
           - style? What can I expect wrt yeast(s)? I have isolated  
             one strain from the Hertog Jan Tripel. Will it be the  
             same as what I retrieve from the Prestige? 

 
Het Elfde Gebod (11th commandment) - Traditioneel Goudblond        
                                     Natuurbier Van Hoge Gisting 
                - beautiful label. Style? 

 
Grimbergen - Blonde 
           - Belgian Ale? 
Grimbergen - Optimo Bruno 
           - style? 
Grimbergen - Dubbel 
Grimbergen - Tripel 

 
La Trappe - Trappistenbier Dubbel (sediment) 
          - yeast(s)? 
La Trappe - Trappistenbier Tripel (sediment) 
          - yeast(s)? 

 
Westmalle - Trappistenbier Dubbel (sediment) 
          - yeast(s)? 
Westmalle - Trappistenbier Tripel (sediment) 
          - yeast(s)? 

 
Trappistes Rochefort - Biere 10 (sediment) 
                     - yeast(s)? 

 
Corsedonk - Marie de Corssendonc Monastery (Donker Bier Op Gist    
            Biere Brune Sur Lie) (sediment) 
          - abbey beer? What can I expect from the sediment? 

 
No, Cantillon and/or Boon products were not brought back. :( 
He never actually crossed the border to Belgium and couldn't find 
them in The Netherlands. His girlfriend will be coming over in 
August so I'm hoping she can track down a few bottles. 

 
Once again, I look forward to hearing any and all replies and 
thanks respondents in advance. Take care. 

 
                              - ML - 

 
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