Lambic Digest #0362

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Subject: Lambic Digest #362 (June 05, 1994) 
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Lambic Digest #362                             Sun 05 June 1994 

 

 
        Forum on Lambic Beers (and other Belgian beer styles) 
                Mike Sharp, Digest Coordinator 

 

 
Contents: 
  Lambic Digest #360 (June 03, 1994) (Stephen George) 
  Re: Saccharin in lambic (Teddy Winstead) 

 

 
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Date: 04 Jun 94 07:40:04 EDT 
From: Stephen George <74363.26 at CompuServe.COM> 
Subject: Lambic Digest #360 (June 03, 1994) 

 
In LD360, Michael Young wrote: 

 
 > the new edition of the GOOD BEER GUIDE TO BELGIUM AND HOLLAND, by Tim Webb. 
 I 
 > have the first edition, and would be interested to know if anyone has seen 
the new one, 
 > and if enough new info is include to make buying the new one worthwhile. 

 
They were selling the new version on the Bierbommel train.  The author was 
autographing 
copies on one of the platforms.  I looked through it and decided to save the 
money.  On 
beers, there's Crombeq (in Dutch), and Jackson's list of pubs has served well, 
and is 
nicely augmented by postings from the Digest.  I suppose that's grist for 
another posting. 

 
 >  I am still looking for the ultimate beer store for Belgiques 

 
There is a store in Antwerp called Belgium Beers +/- 280 sorts, located at 2 
Reynders 
straat near the Vrijdag markt.  It is open 1100-1900 except Tuesdays.  They 
have a 
well-rounded selection; some lambics (including Cantillon and Boon products), 
lots of the 
abbey beers, some beers from Wallonia that aren't so easy to find in Flanders. 

 
They also stock companion glassware; they have the Celis White glasses(small 
mugs) 
there. 

 
I thought their prices were good, except for Cantillon 750 mL.  They ask 300 
BeF whereas 
at the brewery I paid 100.  Mind, you do have to pay a deposit for the 
bottles. 

 
I also note that the Kulminator pub (see Jackson) will sell beers to carry 
out.  They have a 
staggering menu including lots of 'vintage' selections.  I have been 
scratching down a list 
of their lambic products during the last few visits and will post it when 
complete, if I 
haven't emptied the shelves by then.  Example:  Boon Mariage Parfait Gueuze 
81-83. 
Price 350 BeF.  IMHO, an excellent choice.  One drawback to this method is 
that the beers 
are cold when purchased.  I wonder how warming (presuming you'd carry one 
home) would 
affect these old-timers.  Certainly moving these cellared beers stirs up the 
yeasties. 

 
Once things slow down here, but before I wrap up my job, I'll try to post as 
much as I can 
about prices and locations in the Antwerp area.  From a tourism point of view, 
it is certainly 
not the first city on most people's list, but it's only 50 km from Brussels 
and definitely 
worth a trip. 

 
Steve 

 

 
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Date: Sat, 4 Jun 1994 10:58:54 -0500 (CDT) 
From: winstead at brauerei.uucp%cs.tulane.edu (Teddy Winstead) 
Subject: Re: Saccharin in lambic 

 
> Has anyone (other than Sarah White -- Hi!) heard about the use 
> of aspertaime to sweeten commercial lambics? 

 
This rung a bell from my trip to Belgium, so I pulled out my handy "Selective 
Guide to Brussels Bars" put out by CAMRA Brussels.  If I'm not mistaken, 
aspartame is "Equal" and saccharin is "Sweet 'n Low", right?  Well, here's 
what it said -- 

 
"Both breweries [refering to Belle-Vue and St. Louis] blend a small 
proportion of lambic with ordinary beer, then add saccharin (plus syrup - 
not fruit - for the fruit beers). Moreover, they are in clear breach 
of the Royal Decrees of 1965 and 1974.... etc" 

 
(Quoted without permission) 

 
So is the saccharin that they refer to the same as the Sweet 'n Low stuff? 

 
- --  
Teddy Winstead 
winstead%brauerei at cs.tulane.edu 
winstead at cs.tulane.edu 
Fanatical Homebrewer 

 
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