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Subject: Lambic Digest #360 (June 03, 1994)
Date: Fri, 3 Jun 1994 00:30:11 -0600
Lambic Digest #360 Fri 03 June 1994
Forum on Lambic Beers (and other Belgian beer styles)
Mike Sharp, Digest Coordinator
Contents:
artificial sweeteners ("Daniel F McConnell")
artificial sweeteners
Good Beer Guide (MJY10)
Aspertame (Jeremy Ballard Bergsman)
Contact info for Blessed Sacrament Brewpub needed (Jay Hersh)
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Date: 2 Jun 1994 09:43:21 -0400
From: "Daniel F McConnell" <Daniel.F.McConnell at med.umich.edu>
Subject: artificial sweeteners
Subject: artificial sweeteners
>Has anyone (other than Sarah White -- Hi!) heard about the use
>of aspertaime to sweeten commercial lambics? Is anyone (Jim? Dan?)
>interested in a few quick lab tests to verify the presence or absence of
>this in various lambics?
I recall judging fruit plambics a year or so ago in which one in particular
had a very strange, bitter aftertaste. The judge that I was working with
correctly (I think) identified it as saccharine. Nasty! In any case, I would
not be surprised that artificial sweeteners are used commercially.
Aspartame would, of course, be a better choice than saccharine. Is
aspartame on the list of allowable ingredients in US beers?
I tried it in a misguided exeriment (thinking that VERY small amounts
would balance the sourness-after all Dave Line recommended it for beer
in the old days). It was terrible, I never tried it again, but I suspect the
reason was that this was BEFORE I tasted a Cantillion. My life has not
been the same since. I like 'em sour :-*
Send me (or post the procedure or reference). It would be fun to play a
little.
DanMcC
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Date: Thu, 02 Jun 94 15:01:24 BST
From: MJY10 at phx.cam.ac.uk
Subject: Good Beer Guide
Greetings!
I have just recently been introduced to the "lambic line", and I
must say it great to see that there are many more out there with the same
sickness. My question relates to the new edition of the GOOD BEER GUIDE
TO BELGIUM AND HOLLAND, by Tim Webb. I have the first edition, and would be
interested to know if anyone has seen the new one, and if enough new
info is include to make buying the new one worthwhile.
Also, I make frequent trips to the lowlands (purely for rinking purposes
and I am still looking for the ultimate beer store for Belgiques. The
Bierkoning in Amsterdam is excellent, especially for authentic lambics (and
the real Westvlerterens, sometimes), but I know there must be a similar place
in Brussels or Antwerp. any ideas?
thanks,
Michael Young
University of Cambridge
Department of Anatomy
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Date: Thu, 2 Jun 1994 11:12:37 -0700 (PDT)
From: Jeremy Ballard Bergsman <jeremybb at leland.Stanford.EDU>
Subject: Aspertame
Mike writes:
> Has anyone (other than Sarah White -- Hi!) heard about the use
> of aspertaime to sweeten commercial lambics? Is anyone (Jim? Dan?)
> interested in a few quick lab tests to verify the presence or absence of
> this in various lambics? I contemplated doing this myself but I just
> don't have the time. The results could be quite revealing.
Wouldn't aspertame (a dipeptide) be degraded/utilized by something in
the bottle? Or if the bottle is sterile sugar would be a lot cheaper.
If someone knows the test I might be able to do it. 2D gel?
Jeremy Bergsman jeremybb at leland.stanford.edu
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Date: Thu, 02 Jun 1994 16:28:40 EDT
From: Jay Hersh <hersh at x.org>
Subject: Contact info for Blessed Sacrament Brewpub needed
I find myself with an extra day to kill after a trip to the Indianapolis area
and was thinking of taking a run up to this place. I'd like to contact them to
make sure of operating hours, directions, etc. Can anyone out there help me on
this??
JaH
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