Lambic Digest #0322

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Subject: Lambic Digest #322 (April 16, 1994) 
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Lambic Digest #322                             Sat 16 April 1994 

 

 
        Forum on Lambic Beers (and other Belgian beer styles) 
                Mike Sharp, Digest Coordinator 

 

 
Contents: 
  Trappist Yeast and Extract Questions (Stuart Mennitt) 
  Re: Celis pH (Jim Busch) 
  as usual, I'm responding to everything... (Michael Sharp) 
  Westmalle Double ("Phillip R. Seitz") 

 

 
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Date: 15 Apr 94 08:13 EDT 
From: smennitt at oasys.dt.navy.mil (Stuart Mennitt) 
Subject: Trappist Yeast and Extract Questions 

 
Hello Belgian Replicators, 
    I've brewed about 16 batches of extract homebrew ranging from light 
"honey lagers" to weizenbocks to double stout.  I now want to attempt 
a Chimay or Grand Cru style and have several questions: 
    Which Wyeast products would be best for these styles? 
I have several cans of LME on hand, are any suitable for these styles? 
2x 3.75 lbs Morgans Draught kit   (Australian) 
"                  "Bitter 
2x 4 lbs Laaglander Irish Ale kit  (UK) 
1x 3.3lbs M&F Wheat (60/40 mix)    (UK) 
1x 6lb Northwestern Gold          (USA) 

 
Any recipes or other suggestions? 
Would any of the Belgian grains be good as adjuncts (Special-B)? 
I'll be kegging these, BTW. 

 
Thanks 
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]      Stu Mennitt      smennitt at oasys.dt.navy.mil    [ 
]  NavSurfWarCen, CarderockDiv     Bethesda, Maryland [ 
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Date: Fri, 15 Apr 1994 09:41:16 -0400 (EDT) 
From: Jim Busch <busch at daacdev1.stx.com> 
Subject: Re: Celis pH 

 
> taste, but it *can* be overdone.  It would be instructive for somebody out 
> there with a pH meter to take readings on degassed samples of commercial 
> white beers to see how acidic they really are.  Of the three I've tried, 
> I would suspect Blanche de Brugges to be less acidic than Celis, which is 
> in turn less than Riva Blanche. 

 
Celis Wit tested out to 4.1. 

 
Jim Busch 

 

 

 
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Date: Fri, 15 Apr 94 09:06:28 PDT 
From: msharp at Synopsys.COM (Michael Sharp) 
Subject: as usual, I'm responding to everything... 

 
Mark Stickler <mstickle at lvh.com> writes: 
> Subject: Oak Casks and Saison 
>  
> I have found a local supplier which has various sizes of new,      
> American Oak Casks. They have two types, paraffin and SCP. 
> According to them the paraffin lined are cheaper because the 
> quality of the wood is not as good as the SCP and must therefore 
> be lined with the wax to ensure against leakage. Several questions: 

 
I'll skip the questions and jump right to the real issue. 
Why bother fermenting in a wax lined cask?  you might as well (IMHO)  
ferment in glass - the only effect the wax lined cask will have is an aesthetic 
one.  Your bugs won't take up residence in the wood, there won't be 
any oxygen exchange through the wood, you won't extract any 'oak character', 
etc. 

 
Oh, you _really_ do _*NOT*_ want new American oak.  You'll have to dump numerous 
batches before the cask will yield anything other than liquid oak extract. 
I know because my ~4 year old American oak cask is just getting to this point 
now & I've tried cleaning it all sorts of different ways (to get around this 
problem). 

 
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winstead%brauerei at cs.tulane.edu (Teddy Winstead) writes: 
> Subject: Re: Lambic Digest #320 (April 14, 1994) 
>  
> My six-gallon p-Lambic has been bubbling away happily for about three weeks 
> now, and it's developing a large amount of trub at the bottom of the  
> fermenter.  If this were a normal beer, I'd rack it into another fermenter 
> at this point, but it isn't... 
>  
> Should I worry about autolysis in a pLambic? 
nope.   Just let it do its thing. 

 

 
        --Mike 

 
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Date: Fri, 15 Apr 94 20:08:40 -0400 
From: "Phillip R. Seitz" <p00644 at psilink.com> 
Subject: Westmalle Double 

 
Is anybody out there living in an area where Westmalle Double is  
currently available?  I'm looking for 5-6 bottles to use for the  
upcoming Belgian beer judging class.  If you have access to any and  
would be willing to ship it to me, I will reimburse you for the expense  
and try to throw in something as a thank-you for the effort. 

 
Phil 

 
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