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Subject: Lambic Digest #283 (February 23, 1994)
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Lambic Digest #283 Wed 23 February 1994
Forum on Lambic Beers (and other Belgian beer styles)
Mike Sharp, Digest Coordinator
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Re: Lambic Digest #282 (February 19, 1994) (Michael Sharp)
Looking for a cask... (Michael Sharp)
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Date: Tue, 22 Feb 94 09:19:55 PST
From: msharp at Synopsys.COM (Michael Sharp)
Subject: Re: Lambic Digest #282 (February 19, 1994)
winstead%brauerei at cs.tulane.edu (Teddy Winstead) writes:
> Second, are the archives of this digest availible via FTP from
> anywhere?
Not by FTP, but there is a server that will send you old digests.
Look at the header of the digest for info.
> Doesn't anyone out there brew lambics anymore?
Of course. Sometime this week I'll post info on what I did this weekend.
The Readers Digest version:
xfered ~25gallons of 1yr old lambic into stainless with 25lbs
raspberries
made 10gallons of flanders brown like base, split it three ways
and pitched Rodenbach and Liefmans brewery cultures and a
Felix Oud Bruin bottle culture.
made ~32-33gallons of lambic wort yesterday.
> The archives that I have gotten are wonderful, but it seems
> that the list has run out of gas as far as lambic brewing goes.
It does that from time to time. I just think a few folks need a poke.
[MARTIN, JIM, others - POKE POKE]
> I
> recently finished the _Lambic_ book by Guinard, and wanted to see some
> more people's results as far as fermentation, etc. goes. The archives
> have alot of notes on fermentation, how do those beers taste now? (Or
> is there any left? ;-) ).
umm. the first batch I did in new oak tasted like liquid oak-tree.
The extract batch I split into a framboise and gueuze for the AHA
Milwaukee conference was *WONDERFUL* in the bottle but *SUCKED* in
the kegs. The batch just racked is promissing, but I won't know about
it for at least another 3-4 months. Jim Liddil bottled an excelent
p-lambic recently that was very similar to St. Louis gueuze.
> Lastly, as I am about to dive almost exclusively into brewing lambics,
> I'm wondering where to get a good oak cask. Mike Sharp mentions that
> he bought a new one in the archives. Is Mike still out there?
Yup. I'm just usually busy writing code & don't have much time to
post things.
> If he is, where'd he get the cask?
A shop that is out of business now & I wouldn't recommend it anyway.
One place that I know stocks American oak is Beer+Wine Hobby in Woburn, MA.
They may have a few casks left over from last fall. Casks are _much_ easier
to find in the fall when people are making wine. Plan to get wierd looks
when you tell folks you're making beer in a cask. I would _STRONGLY_
recommend you spend some time calling various wineries and cooperages to
find a used casks. If you have to start from new you'll need to run at
least four or five batches of lambic through it before you get something
that isn't liquid wood.
> Thanks alot, I really appreciate this digest!
You're welcome.
> I have several bottles of Cantillon (Geuze, Rose, and Kreik) has anyone
> succesfully recultured the "goop" from these bottles, then used it in
> a homebrew? The bottles are fairly young, they were bought fresh from
> the brewery in early January.
With work it is possible to isolate interesting critters from these.
Thats where my current favorite set of cultures came from. Unfortunately
you need some microbio experience to do anything beyond culturing the
dregs and hoping you get what you want.
--Mike
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Date: Tue, 22 Feb 94 10:05:36 PST
From: msharp at Synopsys.COM (Michael Sharp)
Subject: Looking for a cask...
hi,
Didn't someone out there have a new French oak cask they where trying
to sell a while ago? If you still have it send me e-mail.
Also, anyone have a line on 15 gallon casks? I'd like to buy 2-3 more.
New American Oak is ok if there isn't any other choice. I've been
quoted $160ish/each which seems _much_ too high.
--Mike
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