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OMICRON ECHO 14 9. zari 1993
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OBSAH: 1.MAPY CESKYCH GOPHERU - 3.cast
2.RESENI SOUTEZE SEPTEMBER HUNT OMICRON TEAMEM
3.GOPHERMAIL
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Protoze se podarilo navazat spojeni s gopherem na VSCHT a s novym
gopherem na VSB, prinasime jejich mapy do 2. urovne. V tomto tydnu probehl
omicronovsky kurz D a v ramci praktickych cviceni ucastnici vyresili zarijove
otazky THE INTERNET HUNT. Uvadime reseni, ktere bylo zaslano R. Gatesovi
jako reseni skupinove. V ramci kurzu byla prednesena mimo jine i
problematika GopherMail. Protoze tato problematika ma velky vyznam, predevsim
pro uzivatele, kteri nemaji uplnou internetovskou konektivitu (Eunet, Earn
a pod.), prinasime vytah ze studejniho materialu.
Vladimir Vrabec
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1.MAPY CESKYCH GOPHERU - 3.cast
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!GOPHER gopher.vscht.cz!
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1. Journals/
Zpravodaj VSCHT (Czech)/
Chemicky prumysl (Czech)/
2. Documents/
Networks/
Science/
3. Top level domain CZ/
RIPE database for CZ (2nd level domains).
RIPE database for CZ (IP addresses).
RIPE database for CZ (persons).
Registration forms (Czech)/
Supporting documents/
Testing of DNS/
4. Top level domain CS/
RIPE database for CS (2nd level domains).
Registration forms.
Testing of DNS/
5. Information & Database Resources/
Other gophers/
Whois servers/
About GopherMail
6. Institute of Chemical Technology Information/
Library Information (Czech)/
Mailing lists.
List of E-mail addresses.
Project TARGET/
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!GOPHER decsys.vsb.cz!
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1. Welcome to Technical University of Ostrava, Czech Republic.
2. About Gopher and this Gopher Server/
About this Gopher Server.
3. Annonymous FTP Server on decsys.vsb.cz/
RFC/
Gopher-0.5/
Mcafee/
4. Gopher gopher.vslib.cz VSST Liberec/
5. Gopher vcdec.cvut.cz CVUT Praha/
6. Gopher pub.vse.cz VSE Praha/
7. Goper gopher.upol.cz UP Olomouc/
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2.RESENI SOUTEZE SEPTEMBER HUNT OMICRON TEAMEM
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1. (2) Wow! This Hunt stuff is fantastic! ;-) Who was the winner
of the first Internet Hunt?
A.1 Hope N. Tillman, Director of Libraries, Horn Library, Babson
College
Babson Park MA 02 157
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from my Gopher (gopher.cuni.cz)
--> Gopher Servers in Czech Republic
--> Palacky University, Olomouc/
--> Gateways/
--> GOPHER gateway/
--> Query a specific Gopher server < ?>
? gopher.cic.net
--> Link to Gopher at gopher.cic.net/
--> The Internet Hunt/
--> Hunt Results/
--> September, 1992.
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[....]
The first Internet Hunt is officially closed. And the winner
is...
Hope N. Tillman
Director of Libraries
Horn Library
Babson College
Babson Park MA 02157
[....]
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2. (2) It's not much longer before Hong Kong reverts to Chinese rule.
Where can I find some current discussions about Hong Kong?
A.2 We can find some current discussions about Hong Kong in Usenet News,
in the groupe soc.culture.hongkong.
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from my Gopher (gopher.cuni.cz)
--> Gopher Servers in Czech Republic
--> West Bohemia University, Plzen
--> Infoservers in the World
--> Usenet News
--> soc
--> culture
? honkong
Type=1
Name=honkong
Path=nntp ls soc.culture.honkong
Host=pinus.slu.se
.........
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3. (3) How do I find the FAQ (Frequently Asked Questions) file for the
Usenet group alt.internet.services? It's not showing up on my
newsreader for that group.
A.3 We can find it using Veronica (for example on host "arthur.cs.purdue.edu")
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from my gopher (gopher.cesnet.cz)
--> search gopher space (Veronica)
--> Veronica at the University of Pisa
? faq -t1
[.....]
--> Usenet FAQ archives (rtfm.mit.edu)/
[.....]
+---------------+
Name=Usenet FAQ archives (rtfm.mit.edu)
Type=1
Port=70
Path=ftp:rtfm.mit.edu@/
Host=arthur.cs.purdue.edu
+---------------+
--> pub/
--> usenet/
--> alt.internet.services/
+---------------+
1. FAQ:_International_E-mail_accessibility.
2. I_S_F_A_Q_&_A_(F).
3. Internet_Services_Frequently_Asked_Questions_&_Answers_(FAQ).
4. Updated_Inter-Network_Mail_Guide.
5. Updated_Internet_Services_List.
+---------------+
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4. (3) I'm studying international economics. How many German Marks
can I get for 5 dollars?
A.4 On the 2nd of September 1993 you would get 8.24 DM for 5$.
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From my gopher server: gopher.cuni.cz
--> 10. Veronica Search/
--> 1. Veronica at NYSERNet < ?>
? : exchange rates
--> 17. 10 am EST foreign exchange rates.
Name=10 am EST foreign exchange rates
Type=0
Port=70
Path=0/ebb/monetary/tenfx.frb
Host=una.hh.lib.umich.edu
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September 02, 1993
FEDERAL RESERVE BANK OF NEW YORK
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FOREIGN EXCHANGE RATES
10 A.M. MIDPOINTS -- NEW YORK INTERBANK MARKET*
CURRENCY SPOT
Pound Sterling 1.5005
Canadian Dollar 1.3265
French Franc 5.8005
--> German Mark 1.6495
[.....]
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5. (2) What's the definition of the word acme?
A.5 [Gk akme^ - point, highest point -- more at EDGE]
:the highest point or stage; also: one that represents perfection
of the thing expressed <he was the acme of courtesy>
syn see SUMMIT
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From my gopher (gopher.cuni.cz) to
--> Veronica at University of Pisa (serra.unipi.it)
search keyword: webster -t7
--> Webster dictionary (gopher.princeton.edu)
search keyword: acme
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6. (3) How many libraries at Harvard University have a copy of the
book "Preparing for the Twenty First Century", by Paul Kennedy?
A.5 6 libraries have a copy of the book.
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Search strategy:
We want to find online hytelnet and use telnet to enter Harvard libraries.
telnet nysernet.org (login: nysernet)
--> 7. Search the Internet/
--> 9. Veronica at NYSERNet (search gopher space) < ?>
? Words to search for: hytelnet -t1
--> 1. Hytelnet for Internet Library Search /
--> 1. Hytelnet (word search) < ?>
? Words to search for: harvard
--> 2. Harvard University <TEL>
+---------------+
***************** H A R V A R D U N I V E R S I T Y
***************** OFFICE FOR INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY
*** *** ***
*** VE *** RI *** HOLLIS (Harvard OnLine Library Information System)
*** *** ***
***** ***** VINE (Campus Information)
**** TAS ****
*** *** HUBS (Harvard University Basic Services)
*****
*** IU (Information Utility)
CMS (VM/CMS Timesharing Service)
** HOLLIS AND VINE ARE AVAILABLE WITHOUT ACCESS RESTRICTIONS **
Access to other applications is limited to individuals who have been
granted specific permission by an authorized person.
To select one of the applications above, type its name on the command
line followed by your user ID, and press RETURN.
** HOLLIS AND VINE DO NOT REQUIRE A USERID **
EXAMPLES: HOLLIS (press RETURN) or HUBS userid (press RETURN)
===>hollis
+---------------+
>>>>>>>>> we enter:
COMMAND? choose hu
COMMAND? fi ti preparing for the twenty first century
COMMAND? d 1
+---------------+
HU SHORT DISPLAY page 1 of 2 Item 1 of 2 retrieved by your search:
FIND TI PREPARING FOR THE TWENTY FIRST CENTURY
---------------------------------------------------------HU HOLLIS# ANV9788 /bks
AUTHOR: Kennedy, Paul M., 1945-
TITLE: Preparing for the twenty-first century / Paul Kennedy.
PUB. INFO: New York : Random House, c1993.
DESCRIPTION: xvi, 428 p. : ill. ; 25 cm.
[.....]
LOCATION: Baker Business: Core CB161.K44 1993 <<<<< 1
Countway Medicine: Aesc. Soc. Kennedy <<<<< 2
C5 - Enter DISPLAY C5 for circulation information
Hilles: CB161.K44 1993 NEW BOOK SHELF <<<<< 3
C4 - Enter DISPLAY C4 for circulation information
------------------------------------------------------ (CONTINUES) ------------
OPTIONS: DISPLAY LONG MORE - next page NEXT - next item HELP
LOCATION INDEX
HELP COMMANDS TRACE *S1 (etc) QUIT - exit database REDO
COMMAND? more
+---------------+
HU SHORT DISPLAY page 2 of 2 Item 1 of 2 retrieved by your search:
FIND TI PREPARING FOR THE TWENTY FIRST CENTURY
---------------------------------------------------------HU HOLLIS# ANV9788 /bks
Kennedy, Paul M., 1945- Preparing for the twenty-first century ... (CONTINUED)
LOCATION: Kennedy Sch of Gov: CB161.K44 1993 <<<<< 4
C2 - Enter DISPLAY C2 for circulation information
Lamont: CB161.K44 1993 <<<<< 5
C3 - Enter DISPLAY C3 for circulation information
Widener: Ordered--received <<<<< 6
C1 - Enter DISPLAY C1 for circulation information
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OPTIONS: DISPLAY LONG NEXT - next item HELP
LOCATION BACK - prev page INDEX
HELP COMMANDS TRACE *S1 (etc) QUIT - exit database REDO
COMMAND?quit
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7. (2) What percentage of the population of Bosnia-Herzegovina was
Muslim, Serb, and Croat before 1992?
A.7 The percentage of the population of Bosnia-Herzegovina
is: 44% Muslim, 33% Serb, 17% Croat.
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from my Gopher (gopher.cesnet.cz)
--> Search Gopher Space (Veronica)
--> Search gopherspace using Veronica at University of Pisa
? Bosnia or Herzegovina
Type=0
Name=bosnia+herzegovina
Path=0/info/government/factbook92/countries/bosnia+herzegovina
Port=901
Host=info.umd.edu
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8. (3) Who were some of the cast of the late 70s English situation
comedy, "Fawlty Towers"?
A.8 =================================================================
from my Gopher (gopher.cuni.cz)
--> Remote Services
--> WAIS
--> arts/
--> film/
? Fawlty Towers
Type=0
Name=Cleese John American Tale: Fievel goes West, An (voice)
(actor.list)
Path=waissrc: /Wide Area Infotmatino Services
satabases/Arts/Film/movie-lists
Port=70
Host=pinus.slu.se
.........
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9. (2) What does a '+' mean in the file inet.services.txt?
A.9 A + by an entry designates new entries (changes since last update)
in Scott Yanoff's Guide to internet services
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from my Gopher (gopher.cesnet.cz)
--> Search Gopher Space (Veronica)
--> Search gopherspace using Veronica at University of Pisa
? inet.services.txt
Type=0
Name=inet.services.txt
Path=0/references/what.is.out.there/inet.services.txt
Host=alamut.cognet.ucla.edu
Port=70
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10. (2) How much does it cost to join the fencing club at the
University of Tasmania?
A.10 The cost of joining the fencing club at the University of
Tasmania is as follows. In 1993, students are charged only $12.00
while non-students are charged $45.00. There is an additional
charge of $1.00 for each training night.
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from my gopher (gopher.cesnet.cz)
--> Gopher Servers in the World
--> All the Gopher Servers in the World
--> University of Tasmania
--> Societies, Clubs & Associations
--> Fencing Club
--> Costs
Name=Costs
Type=0
Port=70
Path=0/Societies,Clubs&Associations/Fencing Club/Costs
Host=info.utas.edu.au
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Extra Credit. (1) The National Science Foundation provides the high-speed
backbone network that ties together many of the Nets in the U.S.A. and
provides links to other countries. How many bytes traversed the
NSFNet backbone in July of this year?
A.Extra Credit. 7,163,825,966,550 bytes traversed th NSFNet nackbone in
July 1993
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Search strategy: We ara using Jughead for "nsfnet and internic and
information" (data - may be not original - but must be in a gopher in
the domain internic).
from my Gopher (gopher.cesnet.cz)
--> Gopher Servers in the World/
--> Other Gopher and Information Servers/
--> All the Gopher Servers in the World/
ACADEME THIS WEEK (Chronicle of Higher Education)/
[......]
--> Washington & Lee University/
[......]
--> Finding Gopher Resources/
--> Search High-Level Gopher Menus by JUGHEAD at W&L < ?>
Words to search for: nsfnet internic information
--> NSFNET Information [is.internic.net]/
--> NSFNET statistics/
--> 1993/
--> nsf-9307.bnets.
[......]
Please keep these points in mind when using this data:
1) Only traffic sent to the NSFNET backbone service is included.
For example, two nets in the same regional network might exchange
a great deal of traffic, but would not appear below because none
of the traffic used the backbone service.
[......]
NSFNET Backbone Service Traffic Distribution by Internet Network Number
July 1993
Packet Total: 37,354,882,700
Byte Total: 7,163,825,966,550
Networks: 9,516
[......]
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Mystery Questions: I came across this one while working on question
number 10. I suspect that I was just burning a little midnight oil,
and thus missed something very simple. So tell me, "In what city is
the University of Tasmania located?"
A.Mystery Question. The University of Tasmania is located in Hobart and
Lauceston, Australia.
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telnet netfind.vslib.cz
login: netfind
Choose: 3. Seed database lookup
2. Seed database search
3. Toggle seed database search output format
Specify: Keys (blank to exit): university tasmania
Netfind output:
[.........]
%O administration office, university of tasmania, hobart, australia
[.........]
%O university of tasmania, launceston, australia
[.........]
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3.GOPHERMAIL
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GopherMail je specializovany gophersky klient, ktery vytvari
rozhrani s uzivatelem vyhradne na zaklade e-posty. Uzivatel od neho
dostava v e-dopisech gopherska menu se smerovacimi udaji gopherskeho
protokolu nebo soubory. V prijatem menu oznacuje radky menu, ktere si
preje ziskat a takto upraveny dopis posila klientovi. Zname dva
pracujici klienty tohoto typu:
gopher@dsv.su.se
gopher@calvin.edu.
Jak pozorny ctenar zjisti z mapy gopheru na VSCHT, je na tomto
serveru rovnez klient tohoto druhu. Zda je plne funkcni, nepodarilo se
nam dopusud zjistit.
GopherMail ma obrovsky vyznam pro internetovske uzivatele, kteri maji
pristup do Internetu pouze na urovni e-posty. Protoze na gopherech jsou dnes
realizovany prechody na radu jinych internetovskych sluzeb (Archie,
FTP, NetNews, Wais a pod.), jsou temto uzivatelum zpristupneny dalsi
atraktivni sluzby. Ani pro uzivatele s plnou internetovskou konektivitou
neni GopherMail bez pritazlivosti.
Praci lze zacit zaslanim prazdneho dopisu s prazdnym radkem
"Subject:" treba prvemu klientovi. Odpovi hlavnim menu gopherskeho serveru
"dsv.su.se". V nem muzeme oznacit znakem X (x) pocatky pozadovanych radku,
napr. radku popisujiciho GopherMail. Postupnym opakovanim techto
operaci lze dojit k pozadovanym informacim, ktere poskytuji gopherske
servery. Cinnost lze zefektivnit tim, ze se v dopise ponechaji pouze
smerovaci udaje pro radek menu, ktery chceme zaktivizovat. Hlavni menu
gopherskych serveru muzeme pozadovat prazdnym dopisem a uvedenim adresy
serveru v radku "Subject:" (eventualne i portu oddeleneho od adresy znakem
"mezera", port 70 je implicitni). Podobne v tomto radku uvadime odpovedi
na pozadovane dotazy (indexy, klicova slova) pri aktivizaci menu typu
2 nebo 7. Pri aktivizaci menu typy 9 (binarni soubor) nebo "s" (zvukovy
soubor) klient zasle soubor uu-zakodovany. Odpovedi klienta obsahuji
implicitne radky
Split=27K....
Menu=100K.....
Tyto radky definuji, jak klient bude clenit odpoved na dopis z hlediska
maximalni delky prenaseneho souboru v Kb nebo maximalniho poctu radek
prenaseneho menu. Prepsanim muzeme menit tyto limity. Uvedenim znaku "0"
mechanizmus Split nebo Menu nebo oba dva vypiname.
Priklad 1: Zakladni menu serveru "pub.vse.cz"
(Prazdny dopis na adresu "gopher@dsv.su.se" s radkem
Subject:pub.vse.cz)
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Mail this file back to gopher with an X before the menu items that you want.
If you don't mark any items, gopher will send all of them.
1. Public domain software/
2. News/
3. Some documents/
4. FTP Links/
.....
You may edit the following two numbers to set the maximum sizes after which
GopherMail should send output as multiple email messages:
Split=27K bytes/message <- For text, bin, HQX messages (0 = No split)
Menu=100 items/message <- For menus and query responses (0 = No split)
.....
#
Name=Public domain software
Numb=1
Type=1
Port=7077
Path=1/msdos
Host=pub.vse.cz
#
Name=News
Numb=2
Type=1
Port=4320
Path=nntp
Host=pub.vse.cz
#
Name=Some documents
Numb=3
Type=1
Port=7077
Path=1/docs
Host=pub.vse.cz
#
Name=FTP Links
Numb=4
Type=1
Port=70
Path=1/FTPlinks
Host=pub.vse.cz
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Priklad 2: Chceme textovy soubor ".....arcutils\00-index.txt" ze
serveru "pub.vse.cz".
Reseni:
Postupne oznacujeme v odpovedich klienta znakem x
prislusne radky a upravene odpovedi zasilame zpet az
dostaneme pozadovany soubor "00-index.txt":
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Oznacena odpoved z predchoziho prikladu:
.....
x 4. FTP Links/
.....
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Oznacena dalsi odpoved:
.....
x 1. FTP archiv VSE - PUB.VSE.CZ/
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Oznacena dalsi odpoved:
.....
x 13. msdos/
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Oznacena dalsi odpoved:
.....
x 7. simtel/
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Oznacena dalsi odpoved:
.....
x 20. arcutils/
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Oznacena dalsi odpoved:
.....
x 2. 00-index.txt.
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Odpoved bude soubor "00-index.txt".
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Priklad 3: Chceme prenest z "gopher.fee.vutbr.cz" binarni soubor
ckermit4f-095.tar.Z <Bin>, ke kteremu se dostaneme postupne
volbou:
3. Network services | Sluzby v siti/
3. Some ftp servers | Vybrane ftp servery/
2. Ftp at TU Brno, Electrical Engineering & Computer Science/
16. kermit/
1. ckermit4f-095.tar.Z <Bin>
Reseni:
Klientovi GopherMail zaslem e-dopis:
-----
Split=0 bytes/message <- For text, bin, HQX messages (0 = No split)
Menu=0 items/message <- For menus and query responses (0 = No split)
#
Name=ckermit4f-095.tar.Z
Type=9
Port=70
Path=ftp:ftp.fee.vutbr.cz@/kermit/ckermit4f-095.tar.Z
Host=dsm.dcse.fee.vutbr.cz
#
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Pak od neho dostaneme tuto odpoved:
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begin 0 ckermit4f-095.tar.Z
M'YV08]:,(5-&C LT !(J7,BPH<.'$"-*G$@10 P8,&Q@3(AQA@P;-#ABA!$C
.....
end
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Priklad 4: Chceme zjistit pomoci systemu Veronica z gopher.cesnet.cz
(pomoci serveru Pisa), umisteni souboru GopherMail (navody
na GopherMail).
Reseni:
Klientovi GopherMail s radkou Subject:GopherMail zasleme tento
e-dopis:
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Type=7
Port=2347
Path=
Host=serra.unipi.it
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Ziskame odpoved, ze ktere je zrejme, ze navod v anglictine je na trech mistech
(polozka 3,4,5).
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1. Info om gophermail.
2. Aksessliste for gophermail..
3. About GopherMail.
4. About GopherMail.
5. About GopherMail.
6. gophermail.tar.Z <Bin>
.....
43. gophermail.tar.Z <Bin>
.....
Name=About GopherMail
Numb=3
Type=0
Port=70
Path=0/gophermail
Host=mars.dsv.su.se
#
Name=About GopherMail
Numb=4
Type=0
Port=70
Path=0/Administrative Departments/Computer Center/test menu/gophermail
Host=ursa.calvin.edu
#
Name=About GopherMail
Numb=5
Type=0
Port=70
Path=0/Administrative Departments/Computer Services/test menu/gophermail
Host=uncle.calvin.edu
#
......
#
Name=gophermail.tar.Z
Numb=43
Type=9
Port=71
Path=9/surfnet/projects/infoservices/tools/gopher/Unix/gophermail.tar.Z
Host=info.nic.surfnet.nl
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Obcasniky OMICRON-ECHO vydava vyukove a poradenske sdruzeni OMICRON. Autori
souhlasi s jejich elekronickym kopirovanim a vyuzivanim vyhradne pro osobni
nevydelecnou potrebu. Elektronicke zverejnovani obsahu obcasniku je mozne
pouze pri zachovani uplnosti textu obcasniku. Jine vyuziti podminuji autori
svym souhlasem.
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