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Mead Lovers Digest #1061
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Subject: Mead Lover's Digest #1061, 11 December 2003
Mead Lover's Digest #1061 11 December 2003
Forum for Discussion of Mead Making and Consuming
Dick Dunn, Digest Janitor
Contents:
Re: Mead Lover's Digest #1060, 6 December 2003 ("Larry R. Sieting")
Re: Mead Lover's Digest #1060, 6 December 2003 (Michael Faul)
Re: Shipping of Meads by hobbyists ("Dan McFeeley")
Re: Mead Lover's Digest #1060, 6 December 2003 (Dennis Key)
Alternatives to Sulfite in bottling? ("W. Andrews")
"Bubbler Speeds" ;-) (Mark Ottenberg)
Re: Shipping of Meads by hobbyists ("john doerter")
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Subject: Re: Mead Lover's Digest #1060, 6 December 2003
From: "Larry R. Sieting" <dijon@grnet.com>
Date: Sat, 06 Dec 2003 14:38:57 -0500
Thanks to you and Matt M for your replies. I have to get on it, but It
looks like I am going to get it bottled and let it age some.
Thanks for the comments.
>Contents:
> White Scum (MLD #1059, #1058) ("James P")
>
>Subject: White Scum (MLD #1059, #1058)
>From: "James P" <jlp765@hotmail.com>
>Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2003 08:46:52 +1000
>
>I won't comment on what the white stuff is, but I've had it on two or three
>meads/wines so far, and it seems to be where I have acidic fruit.
>
>It seems more of a film than a scum, and I either spoon it off, or top up
>the carboy to over-flowing so that it flows off the top (and then have to
>clean the carboy).
>A more sanitary way is to rack wiith a gauze "filter" over the end of your
>racking can to filter the "scum".
>
>I can't comment yet on what impact it has on flavour, but my guess is it is
>minimal.
>
>If you bottle-age you mead, then it will leave a residue on the bottle neck,
>but if you bulk-age, then you can eliminate most (all?) of it before you
>bottle.
>
>Cheers,
>James
>
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Larry R. Sieting
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Subject: Re: Mead Lover's Digest #1060, 6 December 2003
From: Michael Faul <mfaul@rabbitsfootmeadery.com>
Date: Sat, 06 Dec 2003 12:53:41 -0800
> Subject: Re: Shipping of Meads by hobbyists
> From: Galenflys@aol.com
> Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2003 14:04:16 EST
> Can we get some specifics posted as to which companies will accept shipments
> of mead, wine or beer between persons (as opposed to between corporations)?
> I'm sure that Ray Daniels, for one, is a fount of knowledge in this area.
> Want to be able to ship domestic US as well as internationally.
>
> Galen Davis, 17 Fred Jackson Rd, Southwick, Mass. 01077 (413) 569-5148
Individual State and Federal regulations restrict the shipment of
alcoholic beverages that
were produced either at home or in a commercial winery.
To determine where you can ship wine that is legally tax paid in many
states, check out the wine institute web site.
Anyway, you can ship what ever you want, but if you get caught you will
pay the price.
Mike
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Subject: Re: Shipping of Meads by hobbyists
From: "Dan McFeeley" <mcfeeley@keynet.net>
Date: Sun, 7 Dec 2003 11:15:10 -0600
United Parcel Service has guidelines at this URL:
http://www.ups.com/peakseason/transport_alcohol.html
I've found that not all of the employees at UPS facilities know
their company regulations and will reject anything, for any
address, if it has alcohol in it. Oddly, I've had much better
luck going to local stores that also ship UPS packages.
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Dan McFeeley
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Subject: Re: Mead Lover's Digest #1060, 6 December 2003
From: Dennis Key <dione@swcp.com>
Date: Mon, 08 Dec 2003 09:35:49 -0700
Re: Galen Davis & shipping: I have had no problems using UPS to ship
mead to friends in Arizona and Pennsylvania. The US Postal Service will
not ship alcoholic beverages.
Dione Greywolfe
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Subject: Alternatives to Sulfite in bottling?
From: "W. Andrews" <wiandrew@cs.indiana.edu>
Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2003 17:06:33 -0500
As I scan this list and a few newsgroups, I see (historically) many arguments
that "sulfiting is bad", "no, it's not, sulfite is not the compound you're
allergic to", "well, I don't seem to get hangovers", etc, etc. It seems
to be basicly a holy war of faith.
So, rather than get into a holy war, I was wondering if there
are alternatives to sorbate-and-sulfite when bottling? I notice
one reference to 'gentle pasteurization' -- I would expect this requires
a very tight control on the temperature to prevent loss of alcohol?
(BTW: Joe, John, Randy, Matt, and anyone I may have missed, thanks for
the advice on the last Q!)
W.B.
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Subject: "Bubbler Speeds" ;-)
From: Mark Ottenberg <mark@riverrock.org>
Date: Tue, 09 Dec 2003 12:19:25 -0700
At 12:52 PM 12/3/2003 -0700, you wrote:
>Subject: Bubbler Speeds
>From: "W. Andrews" <wiandrew@cs.indiana.edu>
>Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 14:55:05 -0500
>
>A question for anyone with more experience than myself (which is any amount
>greather than 0):
>
>Assuming no prior brewing experience, how do I quantify a fast bubbler?
I don't know about any of you, but to me, who grew up in the Milwaukee
area, a "Bubbler" is local slang for a drinking water fountain. So I found
this funny. My "experienced" answers to what a "fast bubbler" is:
1) Any bubbler with a water speed (pressure) sufficiently fast (high)
enough for the water to fly past your mouth and drench your Grandma
standing next to you. ;-) (Believe me, it's more funny with personal
memories! ;-)
Or within brewing:
2) Any fermentation speed sufficiently fast to blow all the water out of
your air lock. (Been there ...)
3) Any fermentation speed sufficiently fast to carry fruit pulp into the
air lock and then paint your ceiling for you overnight. (... ;-)
The rest are all either "done" or "just right". :-)
Peace,
-- Mark
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Subject: Re: Shipping of Meads by hobbyists
From: "john doerter" <jdoerter@comcast.net>
Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2003 01:44:36 -0600
> Subject: Re: Shipping of Meads by hobbyists
> From: Galenflys@aol.com
> Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2003 14:04:16 EST
>
>
> As many of you are doubtless aware, sharing for our product between
> enthusiasts can be tricky......Common Carrier policies and Interstate Commerce
> regs make it difficult to send a sample to a pal. But apparently NOT
> impossible, as many folks are able to ship mead to the IMF or to shows.
>
> Can we get some specifics posted as to which companies will accept shipments
> of mead, wine or beer between persons (as opposed to between corporations)?
> I'm sure that Ray Daniels, for one, is a fount of knowledge in this area.
> Want to be able to ship domestic US as well as internationally.
>
> Galen Davis, 17 Fred Jackson Rd, Southwick, Mass. 01077 (413) 569-5148
IMO use UPS to ship your "Yeast Samples".
Depending on where you are shipping to or from,
the shipping of Alcohol is a felony and almost
all shipping companies will refuse it.
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End of Mead Lover's Digest #1061
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