Cider Digest #2028

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Subject: Cider Digest #2028, 9 June 2016 
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Cider Digest #2028                                         9 June 2016 

                 Cider and Perry Discussion Forum 

Contents: 
  oenococcus bacteria and health risks (SMB WEBER) 
  fruit quality of rootstock varieties? (Dick Dunn) 

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Subject: oenococcus bacteria and health risks 
From: SMB WEBER <weberscrossing9@gmail.com> 
Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2016 08:20:43 -0400 

I'd like to learn about any health risks associated with oenococcus 
bacteria used in MLF.  Similarly, if anyone knows whether any wine-making 
country monitors it for health risks or have placed any restrictions on it 
due to such risks, please let me know. 

Thanks very much for any replies. 

Susan Weber 

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Subject: fruit quality of rootstock varieties? 
From: Dick Dunn <rcd@talisman.com> 
Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2016 14:06:58 -0600 

Does anybody have experience and/or source(s) of data for the character of 
fruit from common rootstocks?  What I mean is, suppose instead of grafting 
on to a piece of rootstock, you let it grow up into a tree on its own. 
What sort of fruit would you get?  It's expected that the fruit from most 
rootstocks would be poor quality--otherwise we'd be growing them as 
own-root trees!  But cider fruit is considered poor quality by eating or 
cooking standards, so I wonder if there might be some sleepers where 
"rootstock fruit" would be useful in adjusting a cider blend. 

Yes, I know the response, "Why think?  Why not try the experiment?"  But 
I'd have to expect somebody has already tried it for common rootstocks and 
can tell me "don't bother", which would save some time. 
Well, perhaps I shall try at least for M-7 and G-935, since I have a bunch 
in the ground on which the top stock was killed in 2014. 
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Dick Dunn          rcd@talisman.com          Hygiene, Colorado  USA 

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