Cider Digest #2054

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· 9 Apr 2024

Subject: Cider Digest #2054, 30 December 2016 
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Cider Digest #2054                                         30 December 2016 

                 Cider and Perry Discussion Forum 

Contents: 
  RE: Cider Digest  (Mark D Schichtel) 
  Re: Aging in bulk (Dick Dunn) 

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Subject: RE: Cider Digest 
From: Mark D Schichtel <mds@schichtels.com> 
Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2016 20:42:37 +0000 

Help experts! 

I have two (5) gallon batches of hard cider started in September that 
have decided to go rogue.  They have both started growing an opaque film 
on the top with yellow islands.  Also, large bubbles on top not common 
of fermentation.  At first glance, this does not appear to be mold. 

I have 10 or so carboys of various wine/cider fermenting as well with 
no issues.  This cider is of same juice/yeast so I'm wondering what the 
correlation is here.  My gut tells me my addition of potassium meta prior to 
pitching yeast was not adequate Or this is something coming from the yeast. 

Email me directly mds@schichtels.com for pictures if you can help. 

Thanks! 

Mark D Schichtel 
Schichtel's Nursery Inc 
7420 Peters Rd 
Springville NY 14141 
716-725-2061 

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Subject: Re: Aging in bulk 
From: Dick Dunn <rcd@talisman.com> 
Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2016 17:06:03 -0700 

A small response to Marsha Lindner in CD 2052, and adding to the thoughts 
that Nathan Shackelford gave in 2053:  If you are going to bottle for your 
final "packaging", regardless of when you do so you can expect the bottled 
cider to be somewhat "closed up" for a little while after bottling.  It may 
take a week up to several weeks before the character opens up again.  Just 
give it time. 

It's called "bottle shock" by winemakers and aficionados, and it can happen 
to ciders as well.  It's not well understood -why- it happens, but it is 
observed frequently and objectively enough that it's real. 
- --  
Dick Dunn          rcd@talisman.com          Hygiene, Colorado  USA 

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