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Cider Digest #2031
Subject: Cider Digest #2031, 8 July 2016
From: cider-request@talisman.com
Cider Digest #2031 8 July 2016
Cider and Perry Discussion Forum
Contents:
Re: Cider Digest #2030, 25 June 2016 (Jim Cummins)
Re: Cider Digest #2030, 25 June 2016 (SMB WEBER)
ph---TA testers (Ron Beitelspacher)
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Subject: Re: Cider Digest #2030, 25 June 2016
From: Jim Cummins <rootstocks@gmail.com>
Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2016 15:42:38 -0400
re Cider digest #2030 (Anderson) -- Selection of parents in breeding rootstocks:
1) Short Version: Herb Aldwinckle and I laid out our breeding
objectives, in priorities Essential, Important, and Helpful. We
explored a very wide range of Malus possibilities. Then attempted to
match pairs of potential parents with objectives. Sounds pretty
simple, but it really was a major project. We really had no source of
size-controlling except the English rootstocks, Ottawa 3 (an M.9
daughter) and Budagovsky 9 (a Malling 8 seedling). For fire blight
resistance, Robusta 5 and Novole mainly, plus a few other crab types
such as Beauty Crab.
2) Our initial program was aimed at New York growers. Shortly it
became obvious to us that that was a bit provincial, and that even the
Southern states could use a bit of help. (This caused us to shift the
Woolly Apple Aphid objective from "Helpful" to "Essential".)
3) Probably the best way to understand the pre-1995 Geneva program is
to read "Breeding Apple Rootstocks", published in 1983 as a part of
Plant Breeding Reviews vol. 1.
I retired in 1995. Since then Geneva rootstock breeding has been
carried out by Fazio, Robinson and Aldwinckle.
Try googling breeding apple rootstocks.
//Jim Cummins
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Subject: Re: Cider Digest #2030, 25 June 2016
From: SMB WEBER <weberscrossing9@gmail.com>
Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2016 09:10:39 -0400
Thank you Marc and Sigrid. My brother recently died from respiratory
failure of a complicated disease (pulmonary fibrosis). Towards the end,
his doctors were surprised and at a loss to explain why they found
oenococcus bacteria embedded in the bones of his nasal passages, after
surgery to remove blockages in his sinuses. Unexpectedly, they were also
surprised to find that the sinus blockages were caused by the same kind of
scar tissue that destroyed his lungs. They found the oenococcus after they
scraped out the sinus scar tissue and biopsied the bone tissue under it. It
would seem that a likely source of the oenococcus was wine, unless there
are more likely environmental sources for it. The cause of pulmonary
fibrosis (a horrible disease in which your lungs are turned into scar
tissue) remains largely unknown. So I wonder if the oenococcus was even a
minor or not so minor mix of pathogens that worked in concert. Maybe it
was not. But why would it penetrate and embed itself in bone tissue?
I realize these questions are beyond the purview of this digest and the ken
of many reading it. But it seems important enough to ask in case any clue
about its possible role might shed light on important and larger questions
(for example, the origins or destructive means of pulmonary fibrosis).
Thank you for your consideration and remarks.
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Subject: ph---TA testers
From: Ron Beitelspacher <ronb83530@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2016 20:17:28 -0700
Hello Mr. Dunn,
I am looking at upgrading from the ph strips to a ph and or TA analyzer...
I do not know how to search on the Cider Digest or I would do so..
Claude Jolicouer asked the question in 2015 on the Google group
forum...about a particular brand...but that did not seem to
fit into the rules on that forum.
So I am asking here....What are some good dependable brands or
reccomendations for a ph and/or TA analyzer...instead of the ph
strips...???
Thank you,
Ron B
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