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Cider Digest #1982
Subject: Cider Digest #1982, 19 August 2015
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Cider Digest #1982 19 August 2015
Cider and Perry Discussion Forum
Contents:
Cider Digest #1981, 6 August 2015 (Christoph Dietzfelbinger)
NYS Farm Cidery/Winery License advice (Seth Jones)
Evolution of the Harbor Freight cider press (Alan Yelvington)
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Subject: Cider Digest #1981, 6 August 2015
From: Christoph Dietzfelbinger <info@bearmountaineering.ca>
Date: Sat, 08 Aug 2015 12:11:49 -0700
Hello Mark,
thank you very much for your advice. I did try to press a basket full of
berries, but it did not work well. I should probably have crushed or
ground them more. I got a jelly-like substance that I froze. It's great
fruit ice.
As for your suggestion to flavour beer with saskatoons, I have to
respectfully shudder at the thought. I immigrated from Bavaria, where it
takes six years in chemical engineering school to be a brewer. And then
all you can use is barley, hops, yeast and water. Literally nothing
else. This is the Bavarian purity law enacted by Wilhelm VI. of
Bavaria-Landshut in 1516. Infractions are prosecuted until today,
although the penalties may have become a bit more lenient. Or maybe not.
Saskatoon bushes grow wild in profusion here. The berry used to be known
as service berry as it was a staple, cooked and dried for the winter.
Thank you again, and all the best.
Christoph Dietzfelbinger
IFMGA/ UIAGM Mountain Guide - Bear Mountaineering and the Burnie Glacier Chalet
CAA Professional Member
Box 4222 Smithers, B.C. V0J 2N0 Canada
tel. 250-847-3351/ fax 250-847-2854
info@bearmountaineering.ca www.bearmountaineering.ca
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Subject: NYS Farm Cidery/Winery License advice
From: Seth Jones <setjon@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2015 09:11:31 -0400
Hi all
Located in east central New York, I've been a home cider maker for 12 years
and have slowly been working towards taking it up a notch and starting a
small local commercial cidery. I had intended to have it set up for next
season but the truly remarkable harvest of apples happening in the old and
abandoned orchards I use seems to be telling me to hurry it up. It's an
opportunity I can't pass up.
To which, I am scrambling to get my NYS farm cidery/winery license in place
and would love any and all advice that New York cidermakers can give me to
help move the process. It's a little confusing to say the least. Couple
quick ones but all input would be welcome.
1. Is there an existing guide for this process that I am just not finding?
Or a source for assistance and/or information?
2. As I intend to make some cysers with an abv of 9-10% would it make more
sense to go for a farm winery license? Would that also cover lower alcohol
ciders?
3. Can I apply for the license previous to forming an LLC or could I
parallel path the two?
4. What federal licensing do I need to acquire?
5. What kind of timeline have people experienced? I'd like to have it all
in place by spring when the cider is ready.
Not the way I intended to roll this out but sometimes you have to listen to
the trees!
Thanks
Seth Jones
Wits End Orchard
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Subject: Evolution of the Harbor Freight cider press
From: Alan Yelvington <alany@semparpac.org>
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2015 22:15:26 -0400
Some time ago I built a 19" rack-and-cloth
cider press using a Harbor Freight 20 ton
arbor press.
A lot has changed with improvements from
Reverend Nat and the folks at Nobel Cider.
I just posted a video detailing the current
form of my press on YouTube:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tkn8YeNgkS4
There are also links to the video of the
first generation that provides a complete
parts list of off-the-shelf parts, and a link
to each of the videos that document stages in
the evolution.
I don't make these things to sell, but I do
get a kick out of seeing folks build their
own to meet their own expectations.
It's almost harvest time, and I just wanted
to share while there was still time to build
something for this season.
Cheers!
Al Yelvington
Happy Dog Farm LLC
P.S. I'll apologize once for the quality of
my videos. I have to do single-shot videos
since I have a cheap little camera and no
editing capability. There, apology done.
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