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Cider Digest #1948
Subject: Cider Digest #1948, 19 March 2015
From: cider-request@talisman.com
Cider Digest #1948 19 March 2015
Cider and Perry Discussion Forum
Contents:
RE: Cider Digest #1947, 16 March 2015 ("Cline, Shane K.")
Re: Cider Press ("Jerry McCourt")
Re: Cider Digest #1946, 15 March 2015 (Beitelspacher Ron)
Re: Cider Digest #1946, 15 March 2015 (Beitelspacher Ron)
RE: Cider Digest #1946, 15 March 2015 (Michael)
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Subject: RE: Cider Digest #1947, 16 March 2015
From: "Cline, Shane K." <Shane.Cline@hdrinc.com>
Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2015 00:10:00 +0000
Re: Cider Grinder & Press
Dave - I have been pressing apples on a nearly new Happy Valley Homesteader
for several years now. I was lucky enough to find a used version online
in the Portland area for about $375 with many of the bells and whistles
(hopper, wheels, etc.). Because I bought it used, I did not have a lot
of choice between make and model. It is well made and we've been able to
do a bin (~800#) in a weekend so a couple of bushels will be easy.
One thing I would consider is having the ability to have the press be
offset from the grinder. There are several kinds out there but since I
have a Happy Valley, something like the American Harvester might be good.
(http://www.happyvalleyranch.com/American-Harvester-Cider-Press-Grinder_p_8.html
).
I think having this ability would allow the pomice to sit under the press
longer (yielding more juice). It would also allow the skins to remain in
contact with the pomice a little longer (allowing for a little extra and
complex flavor). And probably more importantly it would be more stable
(but also heavier - I would recommend the mobile base attachment).
This would come under your $1500 budget and would certainly be good
enough for the 3 to 4 bushels you are looking for - actually much much
more depending on how hard you want to work.
I'm looking to possibly upgrade and am thinking about the speidle grinder.
It will chew through 3 to 4 bushels in about 5 minutes and does not require
hand grinding. My father, who is much more mechanical and frugal than I
,hooked up a special garbage disposal to grind his apples. It creeps my
wife out but he swears by it. Then all you need is a press.
My two cents and cheers.
Shane Cline
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Subject: Re: Cider Press
From: "Jerry McCourt" <jmmccourt@centurytel.net>
Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2015 08:59:25 -0700
I'll have to agree with Don McIver. I searched for an old cider grinder and
press for a couple of years. I found an old one that worked well. Two
things I was looking for were heavy metal grinding parts and a heavy
flywheel. The more modern apple grinders are made of lightweight materials
that do not appear to be as durable or easy to clean. The heavy weight
flywheel means that a hand-crank grinder will keep going when it hits a
large apple, unlike the light weight ones. [The light weight grinders often
require large apples to be quartered before grinding.]
If you are looking for an old press and grinder, I'd recommend taking apples
with you to give the grinder a test before you buy. I did find one that
looked good, but just sliced into the apples and didn't grind them. The one
I eventually bought cost $600. The wooden parts were soft and need to be
replaced, but I bought it for the metal parts which should last for another
100 years.
Claude Jolicoeur mentioned the Correll press, which looks like a good
machine, but it has a motor-driven grinder. I wouldn't think a motor-driven
grinder would be necessary because the hand pressing would take longer than
the motor-driven grinding. In addition I prefer the type of handles on the
Pleasant Hills grinder (at
http://pleasanthillgrain.com/maple-creek-diy-apple-cider-press-wine-press-kit
) because they enable you to use a lever to put additional pressure on the
press. [This system is the same as a wine press I inherited years ago which
came with a wooden lever about the size of a short baseball bat.]
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Subject: Re: Cider Digest #1946, 15 March 2015
From: Beitelspacher Ron <lnrb@connectwireless.us>
Date: Sun, 15 Mar 2015 21:07:26 -0700
check out Claude's book...you can build it for very little....not sure where
you are...but in the USA ....Harbor Freight handles the press ..only don't
search under apple press...for around $120USD.
Search the archives here... I asked a very similar question about 3 weeks
ago...
If I knew how to send you back to my query and to the great replies...all
would be answered for you..
good luck..
it is all covered in Claude Jolicoeur's book >>>The New Cider Maker's Handbook.
good luck
ron b
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Subject: Re: Cider Digest #1946, 15 March 2015
From: Beitelspacher Ron <lnrb@connectwireless.us>
Date: Sun, 15 Mar 2015 21:13:05 -0700
David, I am not sure where you are...if you are in Europe...there are
several brands for under that price...go to YouTube...give that a look
....you will see several brands being used...Seidel, Zambelli, Grifo are
just some of the brands...get online and just start searching....
good luck
ron b
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Subject: RE: Cider Digest #1946, 15 March 2015
From: Michael <hollinshedbrady@hotmail.com>
Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2015 08:02:00 +0000
David,
I have seen this question being asked a few times. I don't see the problem.
If you don't want the bother of making your own equipment try Vigo here in
Devon or Pressfruit. Their web addresses are easily found. Your problem is
more one of getting the machines over to the U.S economically as part-loads
than of finding the plant. The Speidel Mill probably brings the price up
too high for you, but you might find one in Eastern Europe.
I'm just amazed that with all the fruit that's grown over there someone
is not making milling and pressing equipment in the U.S.!!!
Mike Brady
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