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Cider Digest #1986
Subject: Cider Digest #1986, 15 September 2015
From: cider-request@talisman.com
Cider Digest #1986 15 September 2015
Cider and Perry Discussion Forum
Contents:
Biennial Apples (Josh Kellermann)
Hawthorn Hedgerow ("Richard Anderson")
Re: Orcharding and hedge rows (Dick Dunn)
The Ideal Apple (evan owen)
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Subject: Biennial Apples
From: Josh Kellermann <joshkellermann@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 2015 20:51:40 -0400
Ok, so for most folks in the New England region I've spoken to, this year is
a bumper crop, last year a total bust. This is the biennial nature of apples.
What I can't understand is why nearly all are on the same biennial
swings...wouldn't it seem logical that there would be more diversity in
the year they choose for the off-year?
Thanks for any insight!
Josh Kellermann in the Catskills
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Subject: Hawthorn Hedgerow
From: "Richard Anderson" <rhanderson@centurytel.net>
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 2015 10:43:10 -0700
In my opinion Hawthorn trees are a noxious weed. They were brought to the
San Juans by a farmer at the end of the 19th century. Today they abound
across the landscape and are nasty to remove. While they make nice hedges, I
would rather enjoy them in the UK as a pastoral artifact.
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Subject: Re: Orcharding and hedge rows
From: Dick Dunn <rcd@talisman.com>
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 2015 14:30:41 -0600
SMB Weber asked about hedgerows in general and hawthorn in particular.
Avoid hawthorn. It's susceptible to fire blight! Reputedly some species
of hawthorn are relatively resistant to fire blight, but I'm sure not going
to offer -my- orchard as a possible sacrifice to test that.
Beyond that: What's your purpose with a hedgerow? I'd say the value
depends on the particular land; could be good or bad.
For example, if you need a windbreak a hedgerow on the windward side could
help a fair bit.
BUT if you're in a somewhat lower local area where you're susceptible to
late frost, a hedgerow could interfere with cold air drainage downward from
where you are. And if you're in a local low spot, a ring of hedgerows
would tend to hold the coldest air in.
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Dick Dunn rcd@talisman.com Hygiene, Colorado USA
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Subject: The Ideal Apple
From: evan owen <vanwen@gmail.com>
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 2015 11:58:56 -0400
Just want to pick at some brains. This apple may already exist. I'll
start a list of qualities (the low hanging fruit,so to speak).
tannins
brix
grower friendly -maybe lump disease resistance in here
firm or fibrous flesh - when fully ripe the cheese won't slip and the cloth
shakes clean
size - for ease of harvest
mid to late harvest - not so fast to rot on the ground
early bloom - avoid fireblight weather
oh yeah, god awful ugly so no one steals 'em
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End of Cider Digest #1986
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