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Cider Digest #1866
Subject: Cider Digest #1866, 14 April 2014
From: cider-request@talisman.com
Cider Digest #1866 14 April 2014
Cider and Perry Discussion Forum
Contents:
Re: Cider Digest #1864, 10 April 2014 (Scott Jaeckel)
Re: Golden Russet (Claude Jolicoeur)
Golden Russets (Steury and Noel)
Re: Golden Russet ("Charles McGonegal")
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Subject: Re: Cider Digest #1864, 10 April 2014
From: Scott Jaeckel <spjaeckel@yahoo.com>
Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2014 10:29:04 -0700 (PDT)
I am a first year cider maker, made my first batch this last year. Our
family has been pressing cider for drinking for many years (just the
juice). This was the first time I tried making it hard. I was wondering if
you could recommend any single batch varieties to plant that would grow
well in Southeast Wisconsin? Many of the ones I was looking at had later
harvest dates, like around mid november, which we usually have had snow
for a month or so. We usually press in the middle of October. We have an
orchard with about 50 trees in it that harvest from August through the
beginning of october, many different varieties.
Thanks a bunch!
Scott Jaeckel
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Subject: Re: Golden Russet
From: Claude Jolicoeur <cjoliprsf@gmail.com>
Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2014 21:21:32 -0400
On the question of the difference between different types of Golden
Russet, I'd think the best reference to look at would be the Apples
of New York by Beach. This is in 2 volumes, but the Golden Russet and
similar apples will be described in vol.1.
You can download it from here:
<http://www.archive.org/details/applesofnewyork01beaciala>http://www.archive.org
/details/applesofnewyork01beaciala
In page 118, you will find the difference between English Russet and
Golden Russet.
Claude
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Subject: Golden Russets
From: Steury and Noel <steurynoel@gmail.com>
Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2014 19:22:43 -0700
Golden russets are tip-bearers and very rangy and wild, at least in our
orchard. The more persistent you prune, the wilder they get. I've come to
prune them like pears, that is, hardly at all. A little thinning is all,
preferably in the summer. Sugar is way beyond any of my designated cider
varieties. Seems I read a comparison recently of English and Golden
russets, though of course I can't remember where. But the takeaway message
was Golden was superior, at least here and for cider. It's a wonderful
apple, for dessert, cider, and keeping.
Tim Steury
Steury Orchards
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Steury and Noel
1021 McBride Road
Potlatch, ID 83855
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Subject: Re: Golden Russet
From: "Charles McGonegal" <cpm@appletrue.com>
Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2014 17:30:23 -0500
Comparing between Brightonwoods Orchard (Burlington, WI, which believes they
have English Golden Russet) and Weston's Orchard (New Berlin, WI, which
believes they have the native Golden Russet described by Beach), I'd say the
English Golden Russet is a _little_ rounder/flatter in shape and the
russeting is a little darker grey. The underlying green tends to develop a
bit of a red cheek. The NY Golden Russet looks _slightly_ more oblong and
is a bit lighter and more even in color, with no tendency to blush, and the
lenticels are lighter in color.
My memory is that the sugar/acid/phenolics is similar, but that I like the
English a bit more.
Charles
Aeppeltreow Winery/Distillery
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End of Cider Digest #1866
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