Cider Digest #1866

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Subject: Cider Digest #1866, 14 April 2014 
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Cider Digest #1866                                         14 April 2014 

                 Cider and Perry Discussion Forum 

Contents: 
  Re: Cider Digest #1864, 10 April 2014 (Scott Jaeckel) 
  Re: Golden Russet (Claude Jolicoeur) 
  Golden Russets (Steury and Noel) 
  Re: Golden Russet  ("Charles McGonegal") 

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Subject: Re: Cider Digest #1864, 10 April 2014 
From: Scott Jaeckel <spjaeckel@yahoo.com> 
Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2014 10:29:04 -0700 (PDT) 

I am a first year cider maker, made my first batch this last year. Our 
family has been pressing cider for drinking for many years (just the 
juice). This was the first time I tried making it hard. I was wondering if 
you could recommend any single batch varieties to plant that would grow 
well in Southeast Wisconsin? Many of the ones I was looking at had later 
harvest dates, like around mid november, which we usually have had snow 
for a month or so. We usually press in the middle of October. We have an 
orchard with about 50 trees in it that harvest from August through the 
beginning of october, many different varieties. 

Thanks a bunch! 
Scott Jaeckel 

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Subject: Re: Golden Russet 
From: Claude Jolicoeur <cjoliprsf@gmail.com> 
Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2014 21:21:32 -0400 

On the question of the difference between different types of Golden 
Russet, I'd think the best reference to look at would be the Apples 
of New York by Beach. This is in 2 volumes, but the Golden Russet and 
similar apples will be described in vol.1. 
You can download it from here: 
<http://www.archive.org/details/applesofnewyork01beaciala>http://www.archive.org 
/details/applesofnewyork01beaciala 

In page 118, you will find the difference between English Russet and 
Golden Russet. 
Claude 

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Subject: Golden Russets 
From: Steury and Noel <steurynoel@gmail.com> 
Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2014 19:22:43 -0700 

Golden russets are tip-bearers and very rangy and wild, at least in our 
orchard.  The more persistent you prune, the wilder they get. I've come to 
prune them like pears, that is, hardly at all. A little thinning is all, 
preferably in the summer.  Sugar is way beyond any of my designated cider 
varieties.  Seems I read a comparison recently of English and Golden 
russets, though of course I can't remember where. But the takeaway message 
was Golden was superior, at least here and for cider. It's a wonderful 
apple, for dessert, cider, and keeping. 

Tim Steury 
Steury Orchards 

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Steury and Noel 
1021 McBride Road 
Potlatch, ID 83855 

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Subject: Re: Golden Russet 
From: "Charles McGonegal" <cpm@appletrue.com> 
Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2014 17:30:23 -0500 

Comparing between Brightonwoods Orchard (Burlington, WI, which believes they 
have English Golden Russet) and Weston's Orchard (New Berlin, WI, which 
believes they have the native Golden Russet described by Beach), I'd say the 
English Golden Russet is a _little_ rounder/flatter in shape and the 
russeting is a little darker grey. The underlying green tends to develop a 
bit of a red cheek.  The NY Golden Russet looks _slightly_ more oblong and 
is a bit lighter and more even in color, with no tendency to blush, and the 
lenticels are lighter in color. 

My memory is that the sugar/acid/phenolics is similar, but that I like the 
English a bit more. 

Charles 

Aeppeltreow Winery/Distillery 

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