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Subject: Cider Digest #1819, 28 October 2013 
From: cider-request@talisman.com


Cider Digest #1819 28 October 2013

Cider and Perry Discussion Forum

Contents:
Re: acid additions (Tim Scottberg) (Chris Banker)
Re: Cider Digest #1817, 22 October 2013 (Irvine)
Re: Juice Proportions for Custom Pressing (Claude Jolicoeur)
Cider Conference 2014 Theme and Tentative Schedule ("United States Associa...)

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Subject: Re: acid additions (Tim Scottberg)
From: Chris Banker <cbanker@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2013 13:11:26 -0700

Malic is the main acid in apples, so that would be the most natural choice.


~Chris

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Subject: Re: Cider Digest #1817, 22 October 2013
From: Irvine <sketchpub@aol.com>
Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2013 00:23:15 -0400 (EDT)

Tim,
That's a bit of a dilemma, especially if this is a commercial product. If
not, then the choice is easy.

If is not commercial, then you can and should add tartaric acid as it
will be more stable (from malo-lactic fermentation) than adding in malic
acid. Tartaric is said to be just a tad less sharp, maybe not as strong.

If commercial you would want to add malic (and not tartaric), but then
you have to be careful about the malo-lactic fermentation, converting that
malic acid to lactic acid.

The federal law says that you must only use acid found in that fruit. Malic
is found in apples and also grapes. Tartaric is found only in grapes,
and a few other fruits, but not apples.

You can stabilize the cider by adding lysozyme which kills the malo-lactic
bacteria, or you can add a bit more of meta-bisulfite, if you want (or have)
to add malic.

Ron Irvine
Irvine's Vintage Cider
Vashon, Washington

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Subject: Re: Juice Proportions for Custom Pressing
From: Claude Jolicoeur <cjoliprsf@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2013 16:29:25 -0400

In Cider Digest #1818, 24 October 2013
>Subject: Juice Proportions for Custom Pressing - Recommendations Requested
>From: Peter Karpien <peter.karpien@gmail.com>
>
>My thought is 50% Northern Spy as a base and then 2 or 3 others added in.
>I'm leaning toward Granny Smith's and Jonagolds.

I hope you enjoy sharp cider! Because this blend would most likely be WOW!
N.Spy is very sharp, and let's not say for G.S., which I have never
seen yet recommended for cider. From what I know of it it might
contain more acid than sugar... [slight exageration...]

If you prefer a more palatable cider try to mix low acidity varieties
in the same ratio as sharp varieties. Jonagold is certainly recommandable.
Claude

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Subject: Cider Conference 2014 Theme and Tentative Schedule
From: "United States Association of Cider Makers" <cidercon@ciderassociation.org
Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2013 18:45:13 -0400

Save the Date - Cider Conference 2014, February 5, 6 & 7, 2014, Chicago, IL

2014 Conference Theme: Stewardship

Westin Michigan Ave
Chicago, IL

Cider Conference 2014 Theme: Stewardship

Greetings Cider Fans!

Cider sales and styles have broadened over the past few years and a true
beverage category is developing right before our eyes. As our industry
growswe need to be sure that we are keeping product and personal safety
at the front of our cider making discussions. Thus, the theme for the 2014
Cider Conference was chosen: Stewardship.

If you haven't already registered for this important cider industry
event,please do!

Date & Location: February 5, 6 & 7, 2014 at Westin Michigan Ave in
Chicago, IL.

Book your room now - Hotel reservations are now being accepted at a
discounted rate at the Westin Michigan Ave

Registration and Tentative Schedule for Cider Conference 2014 is at
ciderconference.com.

Cider Conference 2014 will be located at a larger venue than last year,
with more in-depth educational sessions, more vendors and more opportunities
to network with colleagues in the growing cider industry.

Important Items:

There will be discounted conference fees for members of the USACM. Join
today! We need volunteers. If you are interest in helping, fill out
our volunteerform. Cider Summit (a separate public tastings event)
will take place Saturday, February 8, 2014 at Navy Pier in Chicago.
Pre-Conference Survey

So Cider Conference 2014 meets your needs, we ask that you please take
the time to fill out the pre-conference survey.

Call for Presentations

Are you interested in presenting or simply submitting educational session
ideas for Cider Conference 2014? We invite presentation proposals from
qualified experts who meet the criteria of educating cider makers, apple
growers, cidery owners, retailers, wholesalers and other cider industry
professionals about best practices, new trends, research, and improving
processes.

Please fill out the Call for Presentation form.

Schedule
February 5
Workshops. USACM Business Meeting,
Cider Conference kick off reception
February 6
Cider Conference sessions
February 7
Cider Conference sessions
February 8
Cider Summit

Location
The Westin Michigan Ave
909 N Michigan Ave, Chicago, IL
Copyright ?? 2012 United States Association of Cider Makers. All rights
reserved.
Contact email: cidercon@ciderassociation.org

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End of Cider Digest #1819
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