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Subject: Cider Digest #1883, 27 June 2014
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Cider Digest #1883 27 June 2014
Cider and Perry Discussion Forum
Contents:
Re: How long is a panking pole? (+ potential/real tree height) (Dick Dunn)
terminology (Dick Dunn)
CiderCON 2015 Call for Presentations deadline approaching - July 15 ("Unit...)
Apple Juice Concentrate (Eric Pennell)
Used, neutral oak barrels in the New York tri-state area? (Nika Carlson)
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Subject: Re: How long is a panking pole? (+ potential/real tree height)
From: Dick Dunn <rcd@talisman.com>
Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2014 19:21:05 -0600
I asked:
> >I know that a panking pole should be kinda tall, especially for pears, but
> >kinda-sorta HOW tall before it becomes unwieldy?
Claude countered:
> Dick, I would tend to ask the other obvious question... How tall are
> your trees?
Currently the tallest ones are about 20 ft. I suppose your question might
be augmented with "How tall will they get?" I hadn't really considered
reining them in much.
Incidentally, the two tallest trees are both on OHxF 513 - which adds a
point to the commonsensical observation not to believe what you read in
nursery catalogs too devoutly!
My other pears (altogether, a small experimental bunch) are on either 333
or seedling. Those are somewhat younger but much shorter and bushier.
(???...side topic)
> OK, you talk about pear trees - if you let those grow, no pole will
> be long enough as they can easily reach 60 ft high. However, you can
> keep them short - mine are 25 years old, and I keep the trunks at
> about 12 feet
I would be reluctant to try to top the tall ones, although perhaps some
better pruning would encourage less of the reach-for-the-sky growth.
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Dick Dunn rcd@talisman.com Hygiene, Colorado USA
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Subject: terminology
From: Dick Dunn <rcd@talisman.com>
Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2014 19:36:00 -0600
Steve - I think "panking" belongs in our vocabulary just *because* it
sounds a bit naughty or something.
Sorta like when you're talking about very young trees and someone hears you
mention "feathered maidens"...they perk up their ears and want to know
what's up. (Perhaps it conjures an image of a flapper in a feather boa...
I dunno.) As far as getting their attention, it's easier than kneeling on
their chests...
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Dick Dunn rcd@talisman.com Hygiene, Colorado USA
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Subject: CiderCON 2015 Call for Presentations deadline approaching - July 15
From: "United States Association of Cider Makers" <cidercon@ciderassociation.org
Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2014 13:57:07 -0400
CiderCON 2015 Call for Presentations deadline approaching - July 15
CiderCON 2015
February 3rd - 6th, 2015
Call for Presentations
Swissotel, Chicago
Cider Conference 2015
Summer is here finally and I hope your cider sales are in full swing and
your harvest for the Fall looks promising.
As you enjoy the rise in temperature, take a moment to reflect on the
knowledge, skills and experience you have in cidermaking, marketing,
selling, business and orcharding. Your unique perspective on Cider is
invaluable at this time of high growth with limited access to knowledge
by new and old cidermakers alike. Luckily, you can share your insights
with the Cider Industry by presenting at CiderCON 2015.
Call for Presentations: The Cider Conference Committee's goal is to
provide a comprehensive, one of a kind educational experience for the
Cider Industry. We are now accepting presentation proposals for CiderCON
2015. Please fill out the Call for Presentation Form before July 15,
2014 to be considered.
Reservations at discounted rates at Swissotel Chicago are now being
taken. Book Your Room NOW!
Registration for CiderCON 2015 will begin August 1, 2014 at
ciderconference.com
Cheers,
James Kohn
Chair, Cider Conference Committee, United States Association of CiderMakers
Co-Owner, Wandering Aengus Ciderworks
Copyright © 2014 United States Association of Cider Makers. All rights
reserved.
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Subject: Apple Juice Concentrate
From: Eric Pennell <ericlouispennell@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2014 14:06:50 -0500
I am in the planning process of a production cidery in Oklahoma City. I
am a bit land locked, if you will, from an apple or juice source near
me and have been in talks with a Washington company who could provide a
consistent supply and blend of local apple juice.
My question is whether or not to use their regular 13 Brix juice, or their
70 Brix concentrate. They use a thermal vacuum process to concentrate
the juice, no additives or anything weird. They even offer both with a
certified Organic option.
If AJC is used, I would dilute to the desired Brix and stop fermentation
at a point to leave behind some natural sugar in order to avoid using
sweeteners pre or post fermentation.
Using AJC has very important advantages for me, including shipping, storage
and overall cost. But I'm not sure if the final product would take a hit
in flavor or quality.
In simple terms, it seems taking water out, then putting it back in should
have little to no effect. But, things are rarely simple.
Thoughts from the group?
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Subject: Used, neutral oak barrels in the New York tri-state area?
From: Nika Carlson <nikacarlson@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2014 15:53:57 -0400
Hi all,
I'm looking for a new source for used, neutral oak barrels for storage,
ideally in the New York tri-state area. My old source, a winery out in Long
Island, doesn't have anything available right now, and I'd like to pick up
5 or so in the next few weeks. I found someone who can ship them out from
California, but I'd prefer to go more local if I can. I'm in Brooklyn, and
the cider is in the Newburgh, NY area. Anyone have a line on sources I
could call up? I've been cold calling a number of wineries in my area
without success. Thanks!
Best,
Nika
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