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Cider Digest #1871
Subject: Cider Digest #1871, 29 April 2014
From: cider-request@talisman.com
Cider Digest #1871 29 April 2014
Cider and Perry Discussion Forum
Contents:
RE: Visit to the UK--Cidery/Orchard (and Ale/Pub and Whisky/Distillery) (C...)
Golden Russet and Frequin rouge (David Pickering)
Re: CiderCon/ Chicago (Charles McGonegal)
GOLDEN RUSSET (Jack O Feil)
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Subject: RE: Visit to the UK--Cidery/Orchard (and Ale/Pub and Whisky/Distillery)
From: Cris Thomas <thomas.cris@gmail.com>
Date: Sun, 27 Apr 2014 20:22:34 +0100
I am actually in a cider pub right now! Not sure how I found this place on
my first trip to London but it is the Euston Cider Tap just outside the
Euston tube stop (on the Victoria line?) they have 16 cider taps! Great
little pub and lots of local ciders to try!
- - C. Thomas
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Subject: Golden Russet and Frequin rouge
From: David Pickering <davidp@cideroz.com>
Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2014 21:27:27 +1000
Claude raised the subject of Frequin Rouge.
>>In North America, there is a Frequin rouge that is being propagated.
>>Now, go figure which one it is!
Our situation in Australia is similar or perhaps the same.
The cider webpage
http://www.dpi.nsw.gov.au/agriculture/horticulture/pomes/additional-cider-variet
ies
carries the ?disclaimer?:
* Frequin Rouge (Frequin Rouge Amer)
Pomeroy of Somerset (Taunton)
Rousse Latour (Rous Latour)
Sugar Loaf Pippin
Verite
* Frequin Rouge is a French cider variety but there are a various
versions of it currently being used in France. We are not in a position
to say which of the versions we have in Australia but it is reasonably
safe to assume that Australia has only one version.
Whichever it is, it is certainly tannic and can be safely assumed to be
in the French category amere.
Cheers - David
David Pickering - "Linden Lea" 681 Huntley Road, ORANGE NSW 2800
http://www.cideroz.com/
http://www.cideraustralia.org.au/
davidp@cideroz.com
mobile: 042 727 1477
home: 02 6365 5275
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Subject: Re: CiderCon/ Chicago
From: Charles McGonegal <cpm@appletrue.com>
Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2014 07:22:38 -0500
Dick, Andy,
Did either of you gents fill out the post-Con survey? Especially the section
asking about a variety of other cities and other times of year?
Sent from my iPhone
Charles McGonegal
AEppelTreow Winery
Artisan Cider & Spirits
(262)496-7508
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Subject: GOLDEN RUSSET
From: Jack O Feil <feilorchards@juno.com>
Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2014 08:53:52 -0700
Obviously from comments on the digest, there are a number of apples
varieties named Golden Russet. The Golden Delicious has been said to be
a natural cross of Golden Russet and Grimes Golden. I suggest it could
also have grown from a mutant seed of the Golden Russet. One of my
seventy year old Mullin Golden Delicious trees had a spur that grew into
a small limb, the apples were completely russetted and were a size
smaller than the Golden Delicious adjacent to this mutant limb and were
much firmer, later maturing and a similar but significantly stronger
taste. Could this be a throwback to the Golden Russet claimed to be a
parent of the Golden Delicious or as I suggested, a reversion back to a
Golden Russet that mutated to the Mullin Golden Delicious? I grafted some
scion wood on a small tree, the first generation was identical to the
original russetted golden but without a trace of russet, two years later
the apples from that same tree were russetted and identical to the mutant
russet from my Mullin Golden. I conclude that this particular apple is
very genetically unstable. I am making an assumption that my russetted
Golden Delicious is a Golden Russet, but will continue to call it a
russetted Golden and will use it for my personal use. I am not the only
person to observe this Golden Delicious mutation; it is not common but
does occur infrequently the same as I observed.
Incidentally, an authority on apples claims the Golden
Delicious to be the most important apple in the world, it is a fine
allegros variety but more importantly, it has proven to be an outstanding
parent of many of today's popular apple varieties, such as Gala,
Ambrosia, Rubinette and Honey Gold as a corroborated parent of the
Honeycrisp and many others with more in the pipe line. Jack Feil
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End of Cider Digest #1871
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