Cider Digest #1748

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Subject: Cider Digest #1748, 28 November 2012 
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Cider Digest #1748                                         28 November 2012 

                 Cider and Perry Discussion Forum 

Contents: 
  keeving (derek bisset) 
  Small Cidery Start-up (Corey Haugen) 
  Cider Exam Committee ("David Houseman") 
  Cider Days 2102, Pine Hill special pressings (John Simmons) 

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Subject: keeving 
From: derek bisset <derekbsst@gmail.com> 
Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2012 15:38:40 -0800 

Making a sweet cider seems as much art as tech skill. I had some success 
with a Yarlington Mill blend two years ago. It fermented for most of a year 
with natural yeasts and has stayed sweet in a pressure keg for several 
months. I still have a small amount left now bottled without it 
refermenting. 
I would like to repeat the process with a blend of Yarlington Mill and half 
Belle de Boskoop and Golden Russet. I had the same results in the same year 
with a Dabinett blend. 

Questions:     what role does a 24 hour maceration play in helping create 
chapeau brun? 
    does the percentage of tannic apples play a role? 

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Subject: Small Cidery Start-up 
From: Corey Haugen <corey.haugen87@gmail.com> 
Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2012 16:07:55 -0800 

Thanks to everyone who helped direct me to upcoming cider competitions. 

Im currently starting to map out my expansion of cider production to around 
1000 gallons but have recently found that there aren't any resources for 
starting a small cidery. I know about some of the equipment that I will 
need but I want to fully understand the entire process of what it takes. Is 
my best bet to visit a small cidery? Have any of you come across this 
dilemma as well and found reliable resources or created your own? 

Thanks, 
Corey Haugen 

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Subject: Cider Exam Committee 
From: "David Houseman" <david.houseman@verizon.net> 
Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2012 14:06:29 -0500 

The BJCP has posted the following on its web site: 

Cider Exam Committee ? Subject matter experts needed to devise the exam 
format and questions for a Cider Judge Exam, similar to the existing Mead 
Judge Exam, and to prepare a study guide. Cider-making and judging 
experience required.  Contact Dave Houseman if interested. 

THE subject matter experts are subscribed to Cider Digest.   Those who are 
interested please contact me. 

David Houseman 

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Subject: Cider Days 2102, Pine Hill special pressings 
From: John Simmons <32bituser@gmail.com> 
Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2012 10:56:46 -0500 

For those who bought the Pine Hill Cider Days special pressings and 
may not have all the information, I thought it may be useful to have 
the mix and gravities available on this list. 

I dont have the gravity for the 300 gallon tank, as that was long 
empty by the time I got there. 

If someone else has different gravity measurements, please share.  My 
equipment is nothing special and I didnt take a temperature 
measurement.  My basement is approx 60 degrees, but I did not verify. 

If interested..  I got 10 gallons from each of the 600, and the two 
800 tanks. This year I had them put each blend into a separate 15 
gallon HDPE vessel that previously held liquid malt.  I added, per 
vessel, 5 pounds of honey, and 2 pounds each of cane and light brown 
sugar.  Effective OGs for the three were in the mid to high 80s, by my 
estimate. 

 
600 gallon tank (1.054 OG, For this one I used Lalvin D-47) 
18% Jonathon 
16% Golden Delicious 
14% Reine de Pomme 
14% Pippin 
14% Empire 
8% Golden Russet 
8% Northern Spy 
8% Macoun 

800 gallon tank - Upper (1.050 OG, For this one I used Saflager w-34/70) 
45% Reine de Pomme 
33% Redfield 
12% Pippin 
10% Macoun 

800 gallon tank - Lower (1.052 OG, For this one I used Nottingham Ale) 
38% Pippin 
20% Reine de Pomme 
20% Snow Apple 
20% Mutsu 
6% Suncrisp 
6% Gala 

300 gallon tank (I did not get any of this blend, so I dont have the OG) 
45% Esopus Spitzenburg 
23% Orleans Reinette 
17% Black Oxford 
15% Golden Russet 

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