Copy Link
Add to Bookmark
Report
Cider Digest #1673
Subject: Cider Digest #1673, 25 November 2011
From: cider-request@talisman.com
Cider Digest #1673 25 November 2011
Cider and Perry Discussion Forum
Contents:
Re: Anybody (US) making/selling under 27 CFR 24.76? (Dick Dunn)
Re: malformed apples (Dick Dunn)
NOTE: Digest appears whenever there is enough material to send one.
Send ONLY articles for the digest to cider@talisman.com.
Use cider-request@talisman.com for subscribe/unsubscribe/admin requests.
Archives of the Digest are available at www.talisman.com/cider#Archives
Digest Janitor: Dick Dunn
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Subject: Re: Anybody (US) making/selling under 27 CFR 24.76?
From: Dick Dunn <rcd@talisman.com>
Date: Sat, 19 Nov 2011 00:29:21 -0700
Thanks to Chris Horn, who had already explored this issue and had gotten
the answer on sulfites--which is that it's considered a preservative.
The only reason I had really wondered about sulfites wrt this reg is that
sulfiting can be considered to do two rather different things pre- and
post-fermentation. Post-fermentation it would be hard to argue that it's
NOT a preservative, but I thought there was a chance it would be allowed
pre-fermentation.
Also, Nat West <natjwest@gmail.com> wrote:
> Dick, I asked the TTB about that myself just this year. I asked:
>
> I am trying to understand the application of this regulation. I am opening
> a bonded winery (cider-only) and can't figure out if this regulation
> exempts me from all TTB taxes, or just exempts me from the wine-specific
> tax ($1.07/gal) and I still have to pay the cider-specific tax
> ($0.226/gal). Can you provide clarification?
Nat, you pretty much told them that 24.76 wouldn't apply to you!
24.76 isn't that long, and it says explicitly that it applies to
cider "when produced at a place other than a bonded wine premises".
So you gave them a reason straight from the reg to deny you.
- --
Dick Dunn rcd@talisman.com Hygiene, Colorado USA
------------------------------
Subject: Re: malformed apples
From: Dick Dunn <rcd@talisman.com>
Date: Tue, 22 Nov 2011 09:56:58 -0700
I neglected to answer a particularly relevant question on the thread about
the malformed fruit I saw this year--R A Murphy Jr commented:
> An apple has 5 lobes. All 5 need to be pollenated in order to produce a
> 'standard shaped' apple.
> Incomplete=2C anisometric pollenation is a common cause of fruit deformation.
> Examine your 'seed star'. Is it typical?
Yes, the malformed apples had 5 seeds as far as I looked.
But I noticed that they didn't mature and ripen as they should have; the
seeds stayed small and pale. This remained true even for apples left on
the tree way past when everything should have been picked.
- --
Dick Dunn rcd@talisman.com Hygiene, Colorado USA
------------------------------
End of Cider Digest #1673
*************************
