Cider Digest #1582

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Subject: Cider Digest #1582, 20 September 2010 
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Cider Digest #1582                                         20 September 2010 

                 Cider and Perry Discussion Forum 

Contents: 
  mixed apples in Chicago (Michael McClatchey) 
  Re: Cider Digest #1581, 16 September 2010 (Irvine) 
  Re: Apple Prices in Chicago (Erroll Ozgencil) 
  Re: Cider Digest #1577, 21 August 2010 (wilf how) 
  apple prices ("Mark Parranto") 

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Subject: mixed apples in Chicago 
From: Michael McClatchey <mmmcclatchey@gmail.com> 
Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2010 11:48:49 -0400 

I'll drive bushels from Ann Arbor for $25 a pop, but I'd need a minimum 
order. 
8^) 
They're about eight bucks at Eastern Market (for seconds), and the farm 
price for clean ones is around $8-12. I pay $4 a gallon at the mill, pressed 
into carboys. 

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Subject: Re: Cider Digest #1581, 16 September 2010 
From: Irvine <sketchpub@aol.com> 
Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2010 11:55:55 -0400 

Ray, 
I use all the tools in my toolbox. I was referring to using a strong 
meta-bisulfite solution 100-200ppm) that I have in a spray bottle (well 
marked), and I also have meta that comes in tablets of 10 and 22ppm strength 
that I can just drop into a barrel or tank (kind of like an alka-seltzer, 
slow release) with the added benefit that the tablet releases CO2. 

I prefer to use CO2 gas rather than Nitrogen for topping up head space if 
I can't fill to the top. 

I have recently learned to keep a spray bottle of high proof ethanol (sold 
as Everclear in Washington State) to spray around the bung area or on the 
outside of the container. 

Ron Irvine 
Irvine's Vintage Cider 
Vashon Island, Washington 

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Subject: Re: Apple Prices in Chicago 
From: Erroll Ozgencil <errollo@gmail.com> 
Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2010 11:52:54 -0700 

> From: hroth521@comcast.net 
> 
> I have an offer to sell me mixed apples for 25 dollars/full bushel 

... it works out to over 8dollars a gallon for pressed juice. 
> 

According to this web site: 

http://www.unc.edu/~rowlett/units/scales/bushels.html 

One bushel of apples weighs 48 lb, so you'd be paying about $0.52/lb for the 
apples. If you look at it as cost per gallon of pressed juice, I think it's 
closer to $6.25 (48 lb = 21.77 kg => 15.24 liters @ 70% yield => 15.24 
liters = 4 US gallons => $6.25/Gallon). 

For comparison, I've seen  pressed juice, w/out preservatives, in season for 
around $4/Gallon at places like Walmart and Costco. From concentrate juice 
can be had year-round for $3.25/Gallon at Costco. This is in Washington 
State. 

- --  
Erroll 
http://www.washingtonwinemaker.com/ 

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Subject: Re: Cider Digest #1577, 21 August 2010 
From: wilf how <wilf1979@yahoo.com> 
Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 12:14:50 +0000 (GMT) 

Hello All, I'm hoping to visit Vancouver with work in Ocotber and was wound= 
ering if anyone could recommend any cider producers either in and around Va= 
ncouver or on Vancouver Island that are worth having a look at. 

Many thanks 

Wilf 

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Subject: apple prices 
From: "Mark Parranto" <mparranto@frontiernet.net> 
Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 21:06:18 -0500 

 
Howard Roth asked if a bushel of apples in Chicago should cost $25.  I don't 
know about Chicago, but in the Twin Cities, a bushel of these non premium 
varieties would go for that price or slightly more if delivered, which a 
restaurant or hotel or grocery would get.  This would be for U S Fancy, 
meaning that there are no marks, and of good size, say 3 1/4 inches in 
diameter.  To get a better price, see if you can get 2nds, which should mean 
that the apple has a mark from scab, a fungal disease that is on the outside 
and does not affect the taste, or tree rubs that may be unsightly, but don't 
taste at all.  They should be 50 to 60% of the price of 1st grade.  Lastly, 
you could see if you can get "peelers" which are even worse looking and will 
be worth $10 - 12 per bushel, but do not accept anything with the skin 
broken in any way or a bruise that is starting to rot.  They are only good 
for the garbage can. 

Mark Parranto 
Applewood orchard, Inc. 

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