Cider Digest #1556

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Subject: Cider Digest #1556, 20 March 2010 
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Cider Digest #1556                                         20 March 2010 

                 Cider and Perry Discussion Forum 

Contents: 
  French Pear Info (chris horn) 
  Cider Storage ("Jonathan Caners") 
  Cider variety growers and juice (Alan Yelvington) 
  French perry pear information (hvs) 

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Subject: French Pear Info 
From: chris horn <agent_strangelove@hotmail.com> 
Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 14:21:39 -0700 

Years ago, as a student at Oregon State University, I found some one had 
donated a small collection of old French cider books to the collection. 
I was able to get access to rare book collection and get them pulled 
out for me to look at. (I also got to sit next to Linus Pauling's two 
Nobel prizes in that room)  It had been many decades since most of those 
books had been pulled from storage. (I doubt they have been pulled since 
I requested them.) I don't speak French but I like old books and enjoyed 
flipping through them.  Now that everything can be found on the internet, 
I did a quick search.  They are still there.  I'm 99.999% sure they are 
not going to let them go out on an Inter-Library Loan but you might ask. 
I don't remember a break down of cultivars but it's been about 15 
years since I looked at them.  At any rate see the list of books at: 
http://oasis.oregonstate.edu/search/?searchtype=X&searcharg=cidre&searchscope=13 
&SORT=D 

Chris Horn 

Scappoose Oregon 

'Humanity is acquiring all the right technology for all the wrong reason' 
                                                 -R. Buckminster Fuller 

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Subject: Cider Storage 
From: "Jonathan Caners" <jcaners@gmail.com> 
Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 17:39:07 -0400 

I'm wondering how long cider can be kept in glass carboys and the best 
practices for doing so.  The background to my question is that I fermented 
cider in 5 ~20L glass carboys this winter. Rather than bottle it all at 
once, I'm hoping to store a good portion of it in the glass carboys for 
another few months. Clearly, making sure the carboys are topped up would be 
a good idea. Other specifics I would like to know are: 

- -          Now that fermentation is done, should I keep the fermentation air 
locks on the carboys or replace them with solid rubber stoppers? 

- -          Is there a critical temperature that I should make sure the cider 
stays below? 

- -          How long can I keep storing the cider like this before I bottle 
it? 

Jonathan Caners 

Toronto 

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Subject: Cider variety growers and juice 
From: Alan Yelvington <alany@semparpac.org> 
Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 23:43:50 -0400 

Friends, 

I've been in the NW Pennsylvania / Southern Tier NY region for about six 
months now, and not many folks know about true (hard) cider and cider 
varieties.  I'm wondering how many of you out there would be interested 
in a regional blog for cider fruit growers to raise public awareness? 

Dave White (www.oldtimecider.com) has done a stellar job of promoting 
cider producers with his map and reviews, and now I see an opportunity 
to promote folks that grow cider varieties to link up with home cider 
makers. 

At a minimum, I'm thinking that a national grower map to pair up with 
the producer map would show where folks could get "real" fruit and maybe 
juice.  I'm hoping to press fruitfor hire this fall using either wild 
fruit, or customer provided fruit.  It's a small start, but I have about 
two more seasons before my humble orchard has fruit to sell. 

Please drop me a line, and let me know if you grow fruit for local sale 
and would like some promotion.  I'm open to suggestions.  I'm especially 
interested in getting opinions on criteria for listing.  One criteria 
may be that the juice is local and not from concentrate. 

Al Yelvington 
Happy Dog Farm 

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Subject: French perry pear information 
From: hvs <hvschablowsky@gmx.net> 
Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 08:19:03 +0100 

Charles 

Accession name "Jaunet" is held by: 
Conservatoire Botanique National Alpin de Gap-Charance   
Domaine de Charance 
maybe they have cultivar details 
http://pyrus.cra.wallonie.be/listInstitute.php?code=FRA097 

following is useful with reasonable french language skills: 

http://www.pommiers.com/poirier/poire.htm 
list of pear varieties 
- - Poire Cloche 
Pépinières PUILLE - 15 rue de l'église - 60490 Conchy-les-pots 

site pommiers.com cited in 
http://www.greffer.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1561 
Quelle variété de poire utiliser pour faire du poiré ? 

http://www.patrimoinefruitier.org/actions.phpcg 
collection d'arbres fruitiers 
amongst others: pépinières Puille 

Cheers 
Hubert 

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