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Cider Digest #1335
Subject: Cider Digest #1335, 7 September 2006
From: cider-request@talisman.com
Cider Digest #1335 7 September 2006
Forum for Discussion of Cider Issues
Dick Dunn, Digest Janitor
Contents:
Perry pressing (Bradley and Caitlin Hunter)
Seeds: To grind or not to grind (Donald Davenport)
Pear Products... ("chris horn")
Cider Propaganda Pamphlet ("McGonegal, Charles")
PVC Piston Pump follow up ("shawn carney")
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Subject: Perry pressing
From: Bradley and Caitlin Hunter <hunter@midcoast.com>
Date: Fri, 1 Sep 2006 09:24:04 -0400
In a couple of weeks I will have access to a quantity of Luscious
pear, which is a South Dakota E31 X Ewart cross. I have no prior
experience with this variety but I assume, since it is a dessert
pear, it might benefit from some blending to give it some more
character. I have some Dolgo crab available ,too, and I'm wondering
if a percentage addition of those might be helpful? If not the Dolgo,
I can also adjust with powdered grape tannin and acid blend . Any
thoughts on those additions and amounts per 5 gal. batch, or should I
stick with pure fruit additions instead? I could back blend with some
of last season's frozen apple cider that had good tannins and
balanced acid.
This will also be my first attempt at a pressing with some new equipment , a
304 ss, 13 gal. capacity, ratchet driven grape press. The ss basket
is perforated with thousands of 1/8 " holes and the pressure from the
rachet drive should be considerable. I'm upgrading from an ancient
wooden apple press with a simple, weak, screw drive. Anybody out
there ever use this ss press for apples or pears?
I plan on ripening the pears for a week or so after harvest to
maximize sugar and yield . What should I expect to get in gal. /
bushel? I guessed about 2 or
2 1/2 gal. / bushel.
Thanks for any advice.
Brad
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Bradley Hunter
Gambell and Hunter Sailmakers -- www.gambellandhunter.com
Caitlin Hunter
Appleton Creamery goat cheese -- www.appletoncreamery.com
780 Gurney Town Road
Appleton, Maine 04862
cheese order hot line 207-785-4431 -- sail loft 207-785-4430
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Subject: Seeds: To grind or not to grind
From: Donald Davenport <djdavenport@earthlink.net>
Date: Sat, 2 Sep 2006 17:08:23 -0600
What is the current opinion on whether it's acceptable to have
pulverized seeds in the pomace?
I'm using the infamous "Yellman Grinder" (a stainless steel disposal)
and it does a great job, but it doesn't discriminate about what it
grinds, seeds and all.
Since I have to at least half most of the apples to get them to fit in
the throat of the grinder, I could certainly take the extra step and
quarter them and take out the core. (That's easy now since my orchard
is still young. Not sure if it'll seem so appealing when [hopefully]
I'm processing a lot more.)
Off flavors? Cyanide? Thumbs up or thumbs down?
Thanks,
Don Davenport
Santa Fe, NM
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Subject: Pear Products...
From: "chris horn" <agent_strangelove@hotmail.com>
Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2006 11:51:47 -0700
I'm still looking for any sort of fermented pear products to take across the
pond for a perry gathering in a few weeks.
Thus if you are commerically making any sort of pear cider or know if anyone
that is, please drop me a note. If it's a winery and in a wine bottle
that's fine too... I want some range of good products.
This is free advertising folks....
Thanks
Chris Horn
Scappoose Oregon USA
'When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying
the cross.'
-Sinclair Lewis
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Subject: Cider Propaganda Pamphlet
From: "McGonegal, Charles" <Charles.McGonegal@uop.com>
Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2006 11:41:29 -0500
I've recently come into a copy of something billed as a 'Bulmer's
Pomona', which is certainly not the centenniary celebration book.
It bears no publication date, and is titled internally (different from
the cover) as 'The Revival of Cider'. It has no publication date, but
reads like a mid-19th century text. It does make some references to the
twentieth century - but no dates.
It's a riot to read - a tour de force of flowery language devoted to the
promotion of Herefordshire (the sider-shire), cider and HP Bulmers.
Anyone have more details on its origin?
Charles McGonegal
AEppelTreow Winery
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Subject: PVC Piston Pump follow up
From: "shawn carney" <scarney88@hotmail.com>
Date: Wed, 06 Sep 2006 12:01:26 -0600
I was able to take a few pictures of the piston pump I mentioned in digest
1333. There are a few parts missing mainly the motor, piston, and a couple
of disks. I spoke with the original owner who has been out of the cider
business for a while. He said the pump was not homemade but manufactured by
goodnature. He said the pump worked pretty good as long as you had the 2
disks inside the pump lined up correctly. he could not remember how the
disks worked or fit in the pump except that one disk had a hole in the
center and they had to be removed to clean the pump. The pictures I took
can be seen at:
http://www.talisman.com/cider/pistonpump
Maybe someone out there knows more about these pumps? I forgot
my tape measure but I may have been incorrect when I said it was 4" PVC I
think it is probably about 6" in diameter.
Shawn Carney
Cedaredge CO
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