Cider Digest #1282

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Subject: Cider Digest #1282, 9 December 2005 
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Cider Digest #1282                                         9 December 2005 

                 Forum for Discussion of Cider Issues 
                      Dick Dunn, Digest Janitor 

Contents: 
  Disease data (james cummins) 
  Hello all ("Peter Angus") 
  Growing apples in Australia ("Peter Angus") 
  Re: Report, 5th annual CiderMaker's Forum... (Dick Dunn) 
  Perry Pears/Orchard Contact? ("chris horn") 

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Subject: Disease data 
From: james cummins <jnc1@localnet.com> 
Date: Sat, 3 Dec 2005 12:50:49 -0500 

We are sadly lacking on information about disease  
susceptibility/tolerance of cider varieties and perry pears.  I've  
garnered a bit from casual contacts and remarks on scab resistance in  
England are probably dependable, but all in all, we have only a  
fraction of the data for ciders and perries that we have for the  
commercial fruiting varieties of apples and pears. 

I would appreciate observations on incidence of fire blight, scab and  
other problems -- and, where it seems meaningful, of absence of  
infection under severe disease pressure.  I'll try to collate such  
information this winter.  Email me at jnc1@localnet.com 

//Jim 
www.cumminsnursery.com 

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Subject: Hello all 
From: "Peter Angus" <peterangus@optusnet.com.au> 
Date: Sun, 4 Dec 2005 15:36:15 +1100 

G'day group, 

I thought I'd announce myself as I've just joined up. My interests are 
primarily apple brandy but I'm sure there will be lots of useful info that 
will apply. Is the discussion of apple brandy regarded as off-topic? 

Cheers everyone 
Peter Angus 

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Subject: Growing apples in Australia 
From: "Peter Angus" <peterangus@optusnet.com.au> 
Date: Sun, 4 Dec 2005 15:38:34 +1100 

Hello all, 

Is there anyone on the group that grows their own cider apples? I'm planning 
to plant some here in Melbourne Australia and would greatly appreciate any 
hints and tips on keeping them healthy. Also info about appropriate 
varieties and their pollination requirements would be very handy too. 

Thanks everyone 
Peter Angus 

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Subject: Re: Report, 5th annual CiderMaker's Forum... 
From: Dick Dunn <rcd@talisman.com> 
Date: Mon, 5 Dec 2005 00:16:32 -0700 

In Cider Digest 1281, "John C. Campbell III" <jccampb@tseassoc.com> wrote: 
> So the 5th Annual CiderMakers Forum was held November, 19th, at Vintage  
> Virginia Apples (North Garden, Va.).  

Dang!  All the action is on the east coast! 

John covered the main material from the Vintage Virginia Apples event, and 
a previous digest covered the Franklin County (MA) Cider Day event. 

I was at the Franklin County event, and I'd heard about the Vintage 
Virginia event.  Both seem to be creditable in terms of content, speakers, 
etc. 

One obvious (?) question is:  How do they relate to one another?  Which one 
"should" you attend?  Given John's description, I can't see any obvious 
preference for one over the other.  Indeed, if I were on the eastern 
seaboard, I'd find a way to get to both of them.  But from where I sit, in 
the Great American (cider) Desert, I can only choose one. 

How do the organizers of either event feel about the other one? 

Even more, what about an event more aimed at the US west coast?  There's 
a lot of cider out there!  But surely with Vintage Virginia and Franklin 
County, the country doesn't need yet-another cider event, at least not in 
the fall.  What events are the left-coast folks planning? 
- --  
Dick Dunn          rcd@talisman.com          Hygiene, Colorado  USA 

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Subject: Perry Pears/Orchard Contact? 
From: "chris horn" <agent_strangelove@hotmail.com> 
Date: Fri, 09 Dec 2005 11:11:26 -0800 

I am looking at starting to graft perry pears in a more traditional manor...  
  Yes, I know this will be long project.  To the folks that have never had  
the fortune to stand under a massive 250 year old pear tree and wondered  
about how many folks have enjoyed its perry over the last ten human  
generations, you are missing something... 

But the more basic question is on the rootstock...  It's refered to as  
'seedling'.  Are the people really using seedling rootstock this day in age  
or are they using one of the large OHxF types?  If they are using seeds from  
the pomace piles, are they using the perry pear seeds? 

I have tried to contact Bulmers (That word is not always evil folks...)  
orchard division, since I know they are selling standard sized perry pears  
that are grafted in more traditional maners (i.e. up above cattle height).   
But all of the email addresses that I can find, just bounce mail...  Anyone  
have a contact? 

Thanks 
Chris Horn 
Scappoose Oregon USA 

'Never saw off the branch you are on, unless you are being hanged from it.' 
                                                  ~Stanislaw Lec 

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