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Cider Digest #1283
Subject: Cider Digest #1283, 12 December 2005
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Cider Digest #1283 12 December 2005
Forum for Discussion of Cider Issues
Dick Dunn, Digest Janitor
Contents:
problems submitting articles to the Digest? (PLEASE!) (Cider Digest Admin)
Diease on cider apples (Terence Bradshaw)
WG: Disease data ("H. v. Schablowsky")
RE: Growing apples in Australia ("Nicholas Law")
Perry Pears/Orchard Contact? ("hvs")
2005 Glows Competition ("Jeff Carlson")
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Subject: Diease on cider apples
From: Terence Bradshaw <tblists@pshift.com>
Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2005 08:16:25 -0500
Jim: I had a fire blight strike on a third-leaf Dabinett at the UVM
research orchard. I didn't catch it very early and am afraid I'll have
to cut back a good bit of the leader and train a new shoot. It did have
about 25 fruit on it, though!. This was the only tree at the farm with
any FB that I found. Our bloom conditions were cool during dessert
apple bloom, with Maryblyt model showing almost no chance for infection
due to low EIP. Afterwards, when the cider apples blossomed, we fell
into a week of hot weather with very high likelihood of FB infection
where inoculum was present. I predict that with the later bloom of
cider apples we'll see more FB on them in my neck of the woods where
cooler prebloom and bloom temps tend to make the disease rare.
Hope that helps,
Terry B
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Terence Bradshaw
1189 Wheeler Road
Calais, VT 05648
tblists@pshift.com
(802)229-2004
1450 feet, zone 4A/B?
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Subject: WG: Disease data
From: "H. v. Schablowsky" <hvschablowsky@gmx.net>
Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2005 11:37:56 +0100
Hello to all.
I have an interest in perry pears and cider apples. I am located in Dorfen,
Upper Bavaria, Germany.
James Cummins wrote that we are lacking information on disease
susceptibility/tolerance of cider apples and perry pears.
Following publication might provide James with some more information and
further directions of investigation.
REPORT OF A WORKING GROUP ON MALUS/PYRUS: SECOND MEETING
http://www.ipgri.cgiar.org/publications/pubfile.asp?ID_PUB=918
page 28: "Work on fruit genetic resources in Germany and application to
fruit breeding and growing" lists cultivars of (cider)apples with low
disease susceptibility.
Evaluation results of the Fruit Genebank Dresden-Pillnitz:
[Out of 850 cultivars] Only 25 old cultivars and 4 cultivars from resistance
breeding programmes showed a low level of infection for both scab and
mildew. Some important old cultivars with the best performance are 'Roter
Bellefleur', 'Bittenfelder Saemling', 'Boertlinger Weinapfel', 'Cidor',
'Discovery', 'Engelshofer', 'Engelsberger Weinapfel', 'Gewuerzluiken',
'Hibernal', 'Jacob Fischer', 'Juliane', 'Kardinal Bea', 'Merton Prolific',
'Peasgoods Nonsuch', 'Prinzenapfel', 'Rote Sternrenette', 'Spaetbluehender
Taffetapfel' and others. These old cultivars can be regarded as carriers of
polygenic scab and mildew resistance, but the confirmation of this
hypothesis requires crossing experiments.
'Bittenfelder Saemling' is considered to have (polygene ?) scab and mildew
resistance in the field without fungicide spraying and is valued as the best
cider apple in the southwest of Germany.
Seed from Bittenfelder is widely used as standard size rootstock for cider
apples in traditional orchards in Germany.
'Boertlinger Weinapfel', 'Engelshofer', 'Engelsberger Weinapfel',
'Gewuerzluiken', 'Kardinal Bea' are well known traditional cider apples of
the southwest of Germany (Wuerttemberg).
UK:
Kate Evans of Horticulture Research International, East Malling, UK, and
Yves Lespinasse, Luciana Parisi, François Laurens and Charles-Eric Durel of
the Institut National de la Recherche Agronomique, Angers, France, describe
a European project focussing on reducing pesticide usage in apple production
http://www.researchinformation.co.uk/pest/2000/B006347I.PDF
'Cidor' and 'Juliane' are robust cider apple varieties bred by INRA Angers
in France.
http://www.angers.inra.fr/dossiers/verger.pdf
Ian Merwin
Dept. of Horticulture
Cornell University
http://www.nysaes.cornell.edu/fst/faculty/acree/fs430/notes_merwin/04nonfruit.ht
ml
Also some new disease resistant varieties developed specifically for the
French hard cider industry. -Judor, Cidor, Judeline, Jurella, Julian. Only a
few of these are currently available at the USDA apple germplasm facilities.
Cider tradition in Asturia/Spain.
See page 13 of REPORT OF A WORKING GROUP:
Research activities at Apple Germplasm Bank - SERIDA (Servicio Regional de
Investigación y Desarrollo Agroalimentario del Principado de Asturias)
A study was made of the resistance to scab and the variability of the
pathogen, and Venturia inaequalis races 1, 3 and 4 were found to be present.
Selection, assisted with markers, is carried out for scab resistance, aphid
and mildew resistance.
Type of material
525 Asturian cider apple cultivars
57 Basque cider apple cultivars
25 French and English cider apple cultivars
35 Asturian eating apple cultivars
19 Galician eating apple cultivars
22 other national eating apple cultivars
109 old and new foreign apple cultivars
8 clones of wild Malus species
Germany:
Resistance of apple and pear varieties of extensive fruit production against
fire blight (Erwinia amylovora) ]. Bericht, Bundesanstalt für Landwirtschaft
und Ernährung (BLE), Bonn.
http://orgprints.org/5047/
Selected apple and pear varieties of extensive fruit production in Germany
were tested for their resistance against fire blight during 2002 and 2003.
english abstract - full document is available in German only.
Perry Pears:
Under natural infection conditions the perry pear varieties Oberösterreicher
and Gelbmöstler were shown to react susceptible.
Luxemburger Mostbirne, Metzer Bratbirne, Wahlsche Schnapsbirne (excellent
for distillation) showed low susceptibility.
Cider Apples:
Bohnapfel and Schoener aus Wiltshire showed low susceptibility.
Cheers
Hubert hvschablowsky@gmx.net
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Subject: RE: Growing apples in Australia
From: "Nicholas Law" <nl@elr.net.au>
Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 15:44:49 +1100
Peter
A good place to start for info, tips and stock for most cider varieties
in Australia is;
Clive Winmill
Badger's Keep
Chewton Vic 3451
Ph/Fax (03) 5472 3338=20
badgers@dodo.com.au
Jill Campbell's (ex horticulturalist at DPI Orange) report is also a
useful read. See below.
http://www.agric.nsw.gov.au/reader/deciduous-fruits/11434#Introduction
Good luck
Nick Law
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Subject: Perry Pears/Orchard Contact?
From: "hvs" <hvschablowsky@gmx.net>
Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 13:31:14 +0100
Chris
H P Bulmer Ltd at Orcharding Dept, The Cider Mills, Plough Lane, Hereford
HR4 0LE
Tel 01432 294302 or 01432 294279 FAX 01432 294282
http://www.marcherapple.net/nurse.htm
Please have a look at Cider Digest #1231, 8 June 2005 - Pear Rootstock
Compatibility / James Cummins
This OSU page sums it up on pear rootstocks:
http://eesc.orst.edu/agcomwebfile/edmat/html/PNW/PNW341/PNW341.html
A good overview on rootstocks:
http://www.fowlernurseries.com/Rootstocks.htm#Pear
Kirchensaller Mostbirne (a perry pear itself) seed rootstock is used for
(perry) pear trees in several countries in Europe. Seed is obtained from
seed production orchards.
Cheers
Hubert
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Subject: 2005 Glows Competition
From: "Jeff Carlson" <carlsonj@gvsu.edu>
Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 08:47:03 -0500
For Immediate Release
A GLOWing Competition
Grand Rapids Competition Drew Entries from Coast to Coast
56 Medals Awarded
Contact: Rex Halfpenny, Michigan Beer Guide, 248-628-6584 or mibeerguyd@aol.com
The 1st Great
Lakes Olde World Syder Competition completed with an award ceremony at the
DeVos Place Convention Center in Grand Rapids, Thursday, December 8, 2005
as part of the Great Lakes Fruit, Vegetable and Farm Expo. The unique
competition funded by the Michigan Apple Committee and cosponsored by the
Primetime Brewers, Founders Brewing Company, Siciliano's Market, Cascade
Winery and Michigan Beer Guide was open to all producers of fermented
beverages made with the addition of apples or pears. A total of 113
ciders, meads and fruit beers were entered by producers from coast to
coast in two divisions, commercial and noncommercial. The
entries were judged in their respective division by blind tasting panels
composed of industry members, certified beer judges, and press members in
14 style categories. A total of 56 of the potential 84 medals were
awarded.Michigan has already established itself as a producer of wine,
microbrewing, and most recently, distillation. "Fermented apples are the
natural progression of this trend," said Rex Halfpenny, Competition
Organizer. "The competition serves many purposes. It pulls a young
industry together while recognizing quality and providing feedback. It
brings media attention to the industry, exposes our apple farmers to a
potentially new product and introduces them to variations they may never
have considered."Entries ranged in color from clear to mahogany with
alcohol running from the average 4-5 percent up to a fortifying 20
percent. There were still ciders, sparkling ciders, sweet ciders,
semisweet ciders, and dry ciders. There were products made with honey,
barley, raisins, cinnamon, nutmeg, cloves, figs, raspberries, maple syrup,
pears, plums, grapes, watermelon, pineapple, Marion berries, and brown
sugar. Some of the most amazing examples were aged in bourbon barrels.
In the 1st Division, Commercial Products, there were 45 entries in
8 of the 14 style categories. The largest category entered was Common
Cider, with 13 entries. A total of 23 medals were awarded, 10 went to
Michigan producers. Of the 10, three went to Black Star Farms, Suttons Bay
who swept the Specialty Cider/Perry (made with pears) category. The most
decorated producer was Uncle Johns Fruit House Winery, St. Johns, who took
6 medals as well as Best of Show in the Commercial division with Uncle
John's Farm House Perry.In the 2nd Division, Noncommercial, there were 68
entries in 13 of the 14 style categories with 33 medals awarded. The
largest category entered here was Cyser with 13 entries. A total of 33
medals were awarded, 23 went to Michigan home producers. Yet the most
decorated home producer was Gary Awdey of Eden, New York, who took 6
medals including the Division Best Of Show with his Common cider made with
mostly Golden Russet Apples. Plans are already underway for the second
competition in fall of 2006.For more information and a complete list of
winners visit the Michigan Hard Cider website at www.michiganhardcider.org
or the Michigan Beer Guide website at www.michiganbeerguide.com. Photos
and logos available on request.
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