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Cider Digest #1232
Subject: Cider Digest #1232, 13 June 2005
From: cider-request@talisman.com
Cider Digest #1232 13 June 2005
Forum for Discussion of Cider Issues
Dick Dunn, Digest Janitor
Contents:
Sunrise ("Siloam Orchards")
RE: Cider Digest #1230, 6 June 2005 ("skyline, tom bashista")
Re: bottling cider (Robert Marshall)
Cider Apple / Frederick ("The Haystack Group, Inc.")
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Subject: Sunrise
From: "Siloam Orchards" <mail@siloamorchards.com>
Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2005 11:50:35 -0400
Re my previous note on Sunrise apple. I was not speaking of Sunrise
plus, I have no knowledge of this variety, I was speaking of the Sunrise
cultivar from BC. I am merely passing on some info that I have gathered
from growing this variety for a number of years in a climate not
conducive to many varieties. My notes are from my orchards, not a
catalog description.
There are many growers who make there own cider not from Foxwhelps and
Dabinetts, but from a mixture of varieties in their orchard. To these
growers I refer the comment that Sunrise would be a welcome addition to
their product, moreso than the Mac, Paulared, Delicious types. I do not
have scientific data on the cider merits of Sunrise, just passing on
some info that some may find useful, if not, feel free to disregard.
Eric.
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Subject: RE: Cider Digest #1230, 6 June 2005
From: "skyline, tom bashista" <skyline@crocker.com>
Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2005 23:49:28 -0400
Subject: Bottling Cider
From: "ROBT BOURKE" <rpbourke@verizon.net>
Date: Thu, 02 Jun 2005 05:28:26 -0400
" My question is this: Is it O.K.
to use half gallon "growler" brown glass beer bottles with screw tops?"
I don't know what is proper for the cider, but I love those screw top large
beer jugs. Seal has never been a problem for me ( over a year on some
batches), just clean them with a bleach solution and triple rinse with clean
hot water.
Tom
Bashista Orchards
Southampton, MA
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Subject: Re: bottling cider
From: Robert Marshall <robertjm@hockeyhockeyhockey.com>
Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2005 12:54:55 -0700
Here's my method for cleaning bottles:
3/4 cup of TSP per 5 gallons of hot water.
Start adding hot water to container and then start adding the TSP
Take one bottle and stir with it to diffuse the TSP. If there are any clumps
busted them up with the bottom of the bottle.
Continue filling with water to dillute the TSP concentration.
Once completely filled SLOWLY add the bottles, allowing them to fill
with the solution.
You will get some overflow to account for the volume of the glass, but
that's natural.
Soak the bottles overnight, or at the very least for several hours.
Once that's done they labels usually peel off with no problem. Use a
sponge to get rid of any glue or label residue.
Make sure you rinse the bottle throroughly. Be careful as the TSP makes
them slippery.
Good luck!
Robert
Ray wrote:
>Subject: Subject: Bottling Cider
>From: "rayblockley" <rayblockley@ntlworld.com>
>Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2005 18:26:46 +0100
>
>Hi Bob,
>I re-use screw-top glass containers myself, but clear glass 2 x litre
>jugs which are roughly 4 pints (uk style). I've not had any problems yet
>myself (apart from getting the *expletive* labels off...), but obviously
>I make sure they are scrupulously clean and sterile. The main thing to
>check with care is that the seal provided by the screw cap is 100% air
>tight - if it's got a rubber or plastic seal inside the cap, check it
>isn't damaged or perished.
>Good luck. Cheers, Ray.
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Subject: Cider Apple / Frederick
From: "The Haystack Group, Inc." <islandman@islandman.com>
Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2005 20:04:03 -0400
Are there any list members who are growing an English cider apple called
Frederick? I'm interested in hearing your thoughts about it (disease
resistance, annual/biennial bearing, fruit characteristics,
productivity, precocity, etc.) as well as potentially buying a bit of
scionwood for this coming Winter. Please let me know. Thanks.
John
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John A Gasbarre
Three Hills Farm
Union, Maine USA
organic@threehillsfarm.com
44=B0 15' 47" N / 69=B0 18' 42" W
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